Where to begin? New Kit in the working..

[Sir James A]

For SCA purposes if I a also currect you can sneak a leather gorget under the aventail, which I am guessing is more or less required. But you don't have to worry about that if your not doing SCA

For SCA purposes you can wear a pink tutu and a helmet with horns while wearing a samurai cuirass and have it all made out of a pickle barrel and be ok as long as you meet the minimum protective requirements

I was able to call "farb!" but I see you mentioned horns.

[Sir Jason Simonds]

Back on topic....

So Mid/Late 14th century Helms.....

Pros and cons of different types....

and GO!

Pictures are more than welcome too. 

And yes I am still gonna get a Pembridge greathelm for Faire only purposes. 

[Mike W.]

Well one drawback of a klappvisier bascinet is having the visor come off and getting your nose broken.

[Thorsteinn]

Well one drawback of a klappvisier bascinet is having the visor come off and getting your nose broken.

It's not proving a big issue in the SCA or ACL. Just use either a strap and/or a good locking pin, or somesuch.

[Sir Edward]

That's the thing. There are easy modern solutions, but many of these helmets historically did not have locking pins and the like. They used tension in the hinges, more often than not, to keep the visor in place.

[Sir James A]

Well one drawback of a klappvisier bascinet is having the visor come off and getting your nose broken.

It's not proving a big issue in the SCA or ACL. Just use either a strap and/or a good locking pin, or somesuch.

It's a reference to a combat demo we did last weekend, that he was there for, and I got my nose broken while wearing a klappvisor when the visor came down.

[Sir Nate]

This is a mid to late 14th century helmet found on Google images.
James has one that is similar if not almost the exact same bascinet. the one that got james nose broken  
Here is a link to the site: http://www.wassonartistry.com/armor.php?w=helmets

[Sir Jason Simonds]

Poor Sir James just can't catch a break.

[Don Jorge]

This is what I went with and it is based on the visored bascinets of the manuscript (romance of alexander). I am going for a 1340-1350s Spaniard with my simple elbow and knee cops from Merc Tailors and the splinted limbs I am making (still working on em! pics when I have some legit progress)

The bascinet is pretty historical (havent gotten it yet so cant say that with any certainty) as I believe it will be more round as was right during the period (bascinets get more point towards the end of the century from my talks with a few armor historians, definitely want to ask Wade at his armor weekend if I can make it...war practice during the same weekend...I am torn!)

The aventail was a gift and definitely not part of the order so I will have to modify and tailor appropriately to have it rise up rather than have it the way it is now...but hey it is an awesome gift! I cant wait to get it and see how it looks in person...I will have the wife take some nicer pictures of the historical liner etc!

But yeah Sir Jason, instead of going with a sugarloaf (which was a bit dated for practical use) i went with this visored bascinet

[Sir Patrick]

^^^^I LOVE that helmet!!!

[Sir Rodney]

I really like this bascinet as well.  A word of caution, the visor hinge pins must have a method of retaining them within the hinge.

From this photo you can see that the visor hinge pin is simply a bent wire.  I’ve modified mine to be a much larger diameter wire, and then drilled a hole through the bottom of the pin so that a retainer (mail ring) could be inserted.  This prevents the visor hinge pin from working loose and creating a catastrophic visor failure.

I had my houndskull visor swing loose once thirteen months ago and vowed “never again”.  I do not want a broken nose (or worse).   

[Sir Rodney]

Close up photo showing what I described above.  (The decorative hinge pin chain has been pulled out of the way for clarity.)

[Ian]

Jorge, as an aside in order for your aventail to rise around the face you will need to drill holes and add verveilles along the side of the face opening. I would have them do it if you're not comfortable.

[Don Jorge]

Yep I plan to get some nicer vervilles eventually and a new leather band too...I have to see the length and shape of the aventail to see if it is worth tailoring.

I might just use it for a Pisan and get a larger aventail to work on a more historical look.

It has been shipped so let's see how it looks when I get it

As for the hinge pin I do have to come up with a solution that makes it easily interchangeable... I got two visors...a grill for tourney and the closed face for meele and general menace

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[Sir Martyn]

Jorge - I really like the bascinet/visor combo you've picked out. I'm looking for something similar which would also fit under a great helm when needed.