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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #120 on: 2014-06-10, 12:14:05 »
no, i wouldn't. the original is like that. period helms have no brasswork. it was painted

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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #121 on: 2014-06-10, 12:24:27 »
Also what gauge is it?

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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #122 on: 2014-06-10, 13:07:42 »
no, i wouldn't. the original is like that. period helms have no brasswork. it was painted

Yep, the available evidence is that the brass components are the anachronism. Paint is more correct.
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #123 on: 2014-06-10, 13:35:49 »
no, i wouldn't. the original is like that. period helms have no brasswork. it was painted

Yep, the available evidence is that the brass components are the anachronism. Paint is more correct.

Or gilt leaf
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #124 on: 2014-06-10, 14:09:53 »
I'm still looking at stripping paint, but will leave vertical strip in place. May repaint different color thou.

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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #125 on: 2014-06-10, 16:10:59 »
Main thing is that it appears to be the correct shape for a Pembridge Great helm.

If it is just painted I am going to strip all the paint off, may even remove the 3 vertical strips and replace with real brass.

Be cautious of it. I bought a blackened helm from them (Medieval Collectibles), and after stripping the blackening, the steel is kinda, well, seems to be garbage. I'm not even sure what kind of steel it is, but it's awful. That one might be fine, but my experience wasn't so great.
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #126 on: 2014-06-10, 16:14:14 »
If you're stripping the paint off and removing the aventail, it's practically the same helm as the one Aiden linked to. That GDBF helm is a little better known as far as what you're getting.
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #127 on: 2014-06-10, 16:36:15 »
Well seeing how this will be a Faire only helmet I am not too stressed about battle quality. Plus I will more than likely be repainting anyways for decorative purposes. Plus adding stag antlers and a Mantle... If the metal is of good polish-able quality then I will leave it plain metal otherwise I will paint.

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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #128 on: 2014-06-11, 03:56:06 »
Hey, that's my friend Pembridge. We put our heads together when comes time for fighting. :) Good choice.
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #129 on: 2014-06-11, 13:09:06 »
Maybe talk to Douglas on here? He makes great helms and has put horns on his before and a crest...maybe he can do something custom in your budget?

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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #130 on: 2014-06-11, 20:35:53 »
I have already purchased the helm, and Stag antlers. Just have to make the Mantle when they get here.

Also got the heater shield from Kult of Athena.
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=801204&name=Medieval+Heater+Shield

What do you guys recommend to use to paint the shield??

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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #131 on: 2014-06-11, 21:23:57 »
If you want to go old fashion, use milk paint.
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #132 on: 2014-06-11, 21:28:24 »
gesso?
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #133 on: 2014-06-11, 21:35:48 »
gesso?

Isn't it usually gesso then a layer of egg tempera?
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #134 on: 2014-06-11, 21:39:10 »
I have already purchased the helm, and Stag antlers. Just have to make the Mantle when they get here.

Also got the heater shield from Kult of Athena.
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=801204&name=Medieval+Heater+Shield

What do you guys recommend to use to paint the shield??

I would probably just use regular acrylic paint unless you want to make it a pain in the butt.
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