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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #255 on: 2010-12-03, 21:15:53 »
Sir Ancelyn,
Really nice choice. Can I ask if there is a reason why you wish your Lion Rampants to face the sinister side?
Sometimes this was seen as a bad omen or a denotation of some dishonourable act somewhere in your family history. Very much like the reversed bendlet.Although you will probably not find this information in popular modern literary sources, it was a common way to interpret sinister facing devices at the time.


I went through a similar justification process when I was deciding on mine, since mine has nearly everything in sinister. I found some great passages in google books that talked about exactly that, and the sinister portion didn't frequently mean that. Occasionally, but not as a rule. In fact, in churches it was customary to make all of the effigies face the altar, and so the arms would be reversed on many of them to make sure they wouldn't face away. So most of the time it was a stylistic choice and was regarded as such.

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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #256 on: 2010-12-03, 21:19:22 »
Well, in part not to look identical to a dozen other lions. I am also thinking lynx. Also, my clan did a fair bit of thieving along the English borders. Sinister enough. :-)

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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #257 on: 2010-12-03, 21:51:45 »

BTW, website has been cut over to the new one.
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #258 on: 2010-12-03, 22:06:02 »
I actually know people who have played a game for 48 hours straight. And in my bloody high school, social status is determined by how many kills you have at this, or your score at that.

When we had the substantial snow earlier this year, I took 2 weeks off. My driveway is probably 75 feet long, and shoveling out just wasn't going well. The second snow dump that followed ... I quit. No snowblowers in stock anywhere nearby. So I did what anyone else stuck in a house for 12 days would do; I played World of Warcraft to a ridiculous extent. I have 2 level 80s and a level 58 with full nerd gear and all that. Oh, I've also got 46 hours of sick leave and 174 hours of vacation leave banked right now, so I guess you could say I'm pretty good about showing up at work. I quit playing WoW back in feb/mar, didn't even play for a year total.

Last time I did anything remotely like that was high school when Diablo II came out; a couple friends set up a network with me, when you had to literally drag your computers all to the same house. We set up a server and had 3 machines to play on. Then 5 of us took turns "rotating" ... 2 or 3 would play, while 2 or 3 would eat, sleep, etc. We all finished the game co-op in a few days, with almost 24/7 continuous play within the group. Kept us out of trouble, and the week after we were back out playing basketball, football and tennis again.

The thing that is scary about "modern" day times is I'm scared to let my brother play outside with a friend or two unless I'm watching like a hawk. Too many abductions, rapes, and worse. Didn't have those fears when I was younger. I think with both parents working being more common, and kids being home alone and not allowed outside, video games is a natural progression. Half of mine was PC gaming, which oddly enough the LAN gaming configuration led to my first job as a network engineer and my game hacking led to my current job as a software developer.

Now, how do we convince them playing with wooden swords and armor made out of old pieces of carpet is totally normal? That's what I started with. :D
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #259 on: 2010-12-03, 22:19:58 »
Nice CoA, Sir Ancelyn!
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #260 on: 2010-12-04, 19:38:09 »
Sir Ancelyn,
Really nice choice. Can I ask if there is a reason why you wish your Lion Rampants to face the sinister side?
Sometimes this was seen as a bad omen or a denotation of some dishonourable act somewhere in your family history. Very much like the reversed bendlet.Although you will probably not find this information in popular modern literary sources, it was a common way to interpret sinister facing devices at the time.


I went through a similar justification process when I was deciding on mine, since mine has nearly everything in sinister. I found some great passages in google books that talked about exactly that, and the sinister portion didn't frequently mean that. Occasionally, but not as a rule. In fact, in churches it was customary to make all of the effigies face the altar, and so the arms would be reversed on many of them to make sure they wouldn't face away. So most of the time it was a stylistic choice and was regarded as such.



Yes Sir Ed I had heared similar things, but haven`t heard of the Church link before, nice find.

Well, in part not to look identical to a dozen other lions. I am also thinking lynx. Also, my clan did a fair bit of thieving along the English borders. Sinister enough. :-)

LOL sinister enough LOL  :D
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #261 on: 2010-12-05, 03:16:31 »
Sir Ancelyn, I love the COA! Break down of the symbolism if you please!  ;D

And yeah, times are scarier. I think it may be that everyone now has the capacity to tell about 1000 people in a day about the horrifying hearsay. Things travel fast. Scary things travel faster.  ;)  


New website? could someone provide a link?
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #262 on: 2010-12-06, 15:51:41 »
New website? could someone provide a link?

The domain is the same, it just points to the new website's server instead of the old one. http://orderofthemarshal.org/
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #263 on: 2010-12-06, 16:59:54 »
So far, so lookin good, Sir Edward.
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #264 on: 2011-03-03, 20:10:45 »
Wow, you have all been very busy indeed! I have been very absent over months, much traveling, non of which at my own accord. In any event this is a great idea! We often see each other at Faire, it would be great to see you all otherwise as well.

I had an interesting experience I would share, I am a Den Leader and was asked by the scoutmaster if I would help with a ceremony known as the Blue and Gold, they had chosen a medieval theme and he heard I was the one to talk to. I of course thought that was great and said that I would do a Knighting Ceremony for the boys crossing over.

The day arrived; my squire and I donned our armor and waited for the sign. About halfway through the meeting the cub master asked the audience if wouldn't it be great if they had someone from the medieval time period to talk to them about what scouting had in common with those days, like a knight.

Thats when my squire and I came onto the stage from behind a curtain, Sir Baden Powell actually developed his ideas for the Boy Scout Laws and Oath from the ideas held by knights in their code of chivalry. It was a great experience for the boys and the parents were very impressed. As a volunteer I never thought it would have been so warmly received but it makes me think that maybe its time that our code of chivalry is starting to gain audience again and in a day of instant gratification and selfishness, maybe the time of service is growing an audience again.

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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #265 on: 2011-03-03, 21:21:50 »

Excellent and well done! I agree, I think there's a lot for chivalry to teach us today, and we can teach others in what we learn as well. It's part of what makes this whole thing so cool. :)
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #266 on: 2011-03-04, 01:25:59 »
Greetings Stormdelver!

I'm a new guy on the block and it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance.  Congratulations on a job well done at the Blue and Gold ceremony.  As an Eagle Scout and father to a future Cub Scout (next school year) I very much enjoyed reading about the production you put on with your squire.  I know for a fact that those boys will NEVER forget that night.

You brought up a very good point regarding Scouting and Chivalry.  There are many common themes, and intentionally so!  I find it interesting, but not surprising, that my little sub-group within the local Twin Cities SCA group contains 3 Eagle Scouts, two former Scout Masters, a police sergeant and a teacher.  Chivalry, Honor, Scouting and service to others are all cornerstones to a stable and prosperous society in any era.
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #267 on: 2011-03-11, 02:15:07 »
This brings up what may be my defining moment where I believed in chivalry, its service unto others, there have been many times where I would have given my life to protect others, those I knew and those I didn't. Its not importaint where, when, or why, its only importaint that there are those that will stand for what is right and defend those who cannot defend themselves, where honor is not a word, its a life. I hope that maybe, maybe, each in our own way, we maybe plant the seed for the next generation.

I always dreamed of being a knight, but not for the attention, or rewards but for the opportunity to do the right thing and stand for more than I am. Our choices define us in life, and we all have had our tests, and failed at times, yet its that fact that we are here still dreaming of what should be that counts.

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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #268 on: 2011-03-11, 23:38:41 »
"I always dreamed of being a knight, but not for the attention, or rewards but for the opportunity to do the right thing and stand for more than I am. Our choices define us in life, and we all have had our tests, and failed at times, yet its that fact that we are here still dreaming of what should be that counts."


Classic !!!!!!!
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #269 on: 2011-03-12, 13:53:12 »
I always dreamed of being a knight, but not for the attention, or rewards but for the opportunity to do the right thing and stand for more than I am. Our choices define us in life, and we all have had our tests, and failed at times, yet its that fact that we are here still dreaming of what should be that counts.

Most elegantly stated good Sir!  :)

I propose to all our esteemed colleges that we adopt this statement has one of our founding creeds of our order!

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