"Our own heart, and not other men's opinion, forms our true honor."
                -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge

Author Topic: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?  (Read 18850 times)

Sir_Edward_ReBrook

  • New Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 40
  • New Member
maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« on: 2015-10-31, 15:12:26 »
Gentlemen:

Are any of you aware of where I could acquire a great helm in the style of the Maciejowski Bible? They seem a little different in design than the perfectly cylindrical great helms offered by most suppliers. Also, is there a recommended supplier of accurate mid to late 13th century heater shields with historically accurate straps/handles?

Thank you in advance for your thoughts and ideas.
Respectfully,

W. Edward Graf von Ettendorf-ReBrook, GOTJ

Thorsteinn

  • Squire of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,470
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #1 on: 2015-11-01, 05:13:01 »
Bugger. I used to know where to get one of those helms but I can totally put out the word on an SCA FB group and the Armour Archive if you like.

Shields wise I'd say make it yourself. That way you get exactly what you want and learn a new skill. :)
Fall down seven, get up eight.

Sir_Edward_ReBrook

  • New Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 40
  • New Member
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #2 on: 2015-11-01, 21:04:47 »
Very kind of you, my dear Thorsteinn. You are indeed a gentleman. I've considered making my shield. It would certainly be a fun project.
Respectfully,

W. Edward Graf von Ettendorf-ReBrook, GOTJ

Thorsteinn

  • Squire of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,470
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #3 on: 2015-11-02, 02:11:24 »
OK found one place and thats Anshelm Armoury.
Fall down seven, get up eight.

Ian

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 2,994
My YouTube Channel - Knyght Errant
My Pinterest

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

Sir Wolf

  • He Who is Not to be Named
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 5,389
  • i have too many hats
    • man e faces
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #5 on: 2015-11-03, 02:06:22 »
i always have such a problem with the top when making one of these. i can never get the rim to bend down nice and even.

Sir James A

  • Weapons & Armor addict
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 6,043
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #6 on: 2015-11-03, 03:24:09 »
Numerous complaints about Anshelm lately. No personal experience with them, so, just putting it out there.
Knight, Order of the Marshal
Sable, a chevron between three lions statant Argent

Sir William

  • Cogito ergo sum
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 7,154
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #7 on: 2015-11-03, 13:11:37 »
Where'd Sir Edward get his?  He's got a sweet one iirc.
The Black Knight, Order of the Marshal
'Per Pale Azure and Sable, a Chevron counterchanged fimbriated argent.' 
“Pride makes a man, it drives him, it is the shield wall around his reputation.  Men die, but reputation does not.â€

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #8 on: 2015-11-03, 20:55:51 »
Where'd Sir Edward get his?  He's got a sweet one iirc.

Oh yes, I love this thing. I got it from here:

http://www.bytheswordinc.com/p-4020-great-helm-french-md-306.aspx

It took some number of months to get, since I sent them measurements for custom sizing, and ordered it with the leather suspension. It fits perfectly.









« Last Edit: 2015-11-03, 20:57:18 by Sir Edward »
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )

Sir Rodney

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,118
  • Inquit Corvus
    • The Mercenary Company Nevermore
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #9 on: 2015-11-04, 03:29:47 »
Sweet!

AND a "chopper" ... where did you pick that up?   8)
"Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say Ni at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history." - Roger the Shrubber

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #10 on: 2015-11-04, 15:27:44 »

That one is a Del Tin. I think it was through KoA that I picked it up.
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )

Sir Nate

  • Nathan
  • Yeoman of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • **
  • Posts: 1,702
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #11 on: 2015-11-05, 16:34:33 »
Ed really does make a great Totenic knight. harharhar
Nathan Phillip Max
Knight of the Order
"Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil"

Sir James A

  • Weapons & Armor addict
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 6,043
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #12 on: 2015-11-05, 18:24:46 »
Ed really does make a great Totenic knight. harharhar

Ugh. Ban hammer!

:D
Knight, Order of the Marshal
Sable, a chevron between three lions statant Argent

Sir William

  • Cogito ergo sum
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 7,154
Re: maciejowski bible great helm & heater shield?
« Reply #13 on: 2015-11-06, 14:18:51 »
Gentlemen:

Are any of you aware of where I could acquire a great helm in the style of the Maciejowski Bible? They seem a little different in design than the perfectly cylindrical great helms offered by most suppliers. Also, is there a recommended supplier of accurate mid to late 13th century heater shields with historically accurate straps/handles?

Thank you in advance for your thoughts and ideas.

So, By The Sword for a good Maj barrel helm; go here for your heater:  http://www.oakheartarmory.com - I use them almost exclusively, they're the cheapest you'll find that still has quality and they can set it up however you like:  lefty, righty, guige strap or not, any heraldry design and color as well as rawhide, hose or steel edging (go for rawhide, more historical look), and of course, the angle of the strapping.  Generally they put a curve to their shields unless you request otherwise.
The Black Knight, Order of the Marshal
'Per Pale Azure and Sable, a Chevron counterchanged fimbriated argent.' 
“Pride makes a man, it drives him, it is the shield wall around his reputation.  Men die, but reputation does not.â€

Sir Wolf

  • He Who is Not to be Named
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 5,389
  • i have too many hats
    • man e faces