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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #60 on: 2014-05-20, 17:50:07 »
Yep, exactly what Sir Ian said. The arms you saw of mine have the "standard" spaulder just like the picture Sir Ian posted.

I got to work late today due to personal issues, and haven't had a chance to talk with Allan yet, but I'll let him know today or tomorrow as soon as I have a bit of time to call him and chat. I'll try to dig up or take some pics of the "general" 14th century armor I have that he made (fan style, etc).
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #61 on: 2014-05-20, 19:35:40 »
I sent Allan a message through his website, he has already responded. Gotta get measurements and decide on which arms and legs. After looking some more at the Effigies I see alot of mix between the fans and rondels, fans more so in the 1360's but there are what appear to be fans as early as 1350's. So maybe not so much with the scalloped edging til later on.

So maybe this will work for 1350 to 1360 era.

http://merctailor.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=184414915
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #62 on: 2014-05-20, 20:03:26 »
Good choice! :)

Then again I'm partial to that style anyways! ;)
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #63 on: 2014-05-23, 02:58:14 »
When did effigies start having
The dagger being held?
Also, I did look through but did anyone mention the apparent Golden rule
Of buying under garments first? If that is truly a golden rule(which If I am not mistaken is)
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #64 on: 2014-05-27, 22:51:52 »
OK so measurements sent in and Armor is in the works. Got an E-mail saying they can be ready by next week.

So here is what I am getting:
Arms:
http://merctailor.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=184414915
Legs:
http://merctailor.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=184435476
http://merctailor.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=186902983
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #65 on: 2014-05-27, 22:55:57 »

Awesome, that's a great start!
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #66 on: 2014-05-28, 07:48:09 »
Truly you are well on your way! Those are the same legs I'll be going to next year for harnischfechten. Love my splinted but don't want to get them torn up from hard use.  ;)
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #67 on: 2014-05-28, 13:40:12 »
Quote from: Sir Brian on 2014-05-28, 07:48:09
Truly you are well on your way! Those are the same legs I'll be going to next year for harnischfechten. Love my splinted but don't want to get them torn up from hard use.  ;)

Yeah, I think the steel will hold up a little better.

It's very close to what I have for my mid-14th armor, except mine tends toward a slightly earlier date with rondels instead of fans on the knees and elbows.
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #68 on: 2014-05-28, 14:15:08 »
Quote from: Sir Edward on 2014-05-28, 13:40:12
Quote from: Sir Brian on 2014-05-28, 07:48:09
Truly you are well on your way! Those are the same legs I'll be going to next year for harnischfechten. Love my splinted but don't want to get them torn up from hard use.  ;)

Yeah, I think the steel will hold up a little better.

It's very close to what I have for my mid-14th armor, except mine tends toward a slightly earlier date with rondels instead of fans on the knees and elbows.

hmm, I can't remember the details on those...do you have a picture? I think I might like them better with rondels instead of the fans.   :-\
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #69 on: 2014-05-28, 15:57:47 »
Quote from: Sir Brian on 2014-05-28, 14:15:08
hmm, I can't remember the details on those...do you have a picture? I think I might like them better with rondels instead of the fans.   :-\

Yep:   (clicky)

I like them a lot, though I think the rondels are dished just a little too much. Slightly more flat, and they would be perfect.

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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #70 on: 2014-05-28, 18:25:37 »
I was in deep debate over the rondels.... But I really liked the look of the fans so thats the way I went. Now I just have to make up my mind over which direction I wanna go with helm options. Also need to investigate further into what was used for the time period for neck coverage.
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #71 on: 2014-05-28, 19:28:12 »
Standards I am pretty sure were used at this time.
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #72 on: 2014-05-28, 21:21:07 »
Quote from: Sir Aiden on 2014-05-28, 19:28:12
Standards I am pretty sure were used at this time.

This is true.  Except in the 14th century for whatever reason they were called pisans... (basically a maille collar).

Other than that the only neck defense would have been the aventail hanging from your bascinet.
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #73 on: 2014-05-28, 21:23:31 »
So then the pisan isn't absolutely necessary when wearing the bascinet and aventail?
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #74 on: 2014-05-28, 21:31:57 »
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So then the pisan isn't absolutely necessary when wearing the bascinet and aventail?

Nope.  Pisan = optional.

There is little to no evidence for any rigid neck defense (like a gorget) at this time until they start being integrated in to great bascinet designs of the early 15th century.

So you can safely get away with no neck defense except for your aventail and be perfectly historical.
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