"You will never do anything in this world without courage. It is the greatest quality of the mind next to honor."
                -- James Allen

Author Topic: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!  (Read 10325 times)

Sir Wolf

  • He Who is Not to be Named
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 5,389
  • i have too many hats
    • man e faces
http://www.kultofathena.com/new_items.asp

wow what a great price and style selection

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: 2011-02-26, 16:29:07 »
Nice! Maybe I need to get some, so that I can do minor repairs/adjustments when the time comes.
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )

Sir Wolf

  • He Who is Not to be Named
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 5,389
  • i have too many hats
    • man e faces
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: 2011-02-26, 16:42:11 »
great prices for sure. wish i had the cash.

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: 2011-02-26, 16:44:57 »
Most of it's not in stock at the moment anyway. :)
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )

Sir Brian

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 4,735
  • Felix uxor beatam vitam - Happy Wife Happy Life
    • Order of the Marshal
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: 2011-02-26, 17:16:40 »
SWEEET!! Man KOA just keeps getting better and better! :)
"Chivalry our Strength, Brotherhood our sword"
Vert, on a Chief wavy Argent a Rose Sable,
a Gryphon Segreant Or

[img width=100 height=100]
<a href="http://s221.photobucket.com/user/Tah908/media/LP_Medals_zpsq7zzdvve.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i221.photobucket.

Sir Rodney

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,118
  • Inquit Corvus
    • The Mercenary Company Nevermore
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: 2011-02-26, 20:40:13 »
Sure, now you can get the Mail Aventail in about a week!
"Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say Ni at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history." - Roger the Shrubber

Sir Ulrich

  • Squire of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,177
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: 2011-02-26, 21:22:43 »
Just in time for my birthday (which is today). Good price too think I am going to get some.

Sir Brian

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 4,735
  • Felix uxor beatam vitam - Happy Wife Happy Life
    • Order of the Marshal
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: 2011-02-26, 21:36:11 »
Hey Happy Birthday! :)
"Chivalry our Strength, Brotherhood our sword"
Vert, on a Chief wavy Argent a Rose Sable,
a Gryphon Segreant Or

[img width=100 height=100]
<a href="http://s221.photobucket.com/user/Tah908/media/LP_Medals_zpsq7zzdvve.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i221.photobucket.

Sir Patrick

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,647
  • Nex pro inhonesto, Deus pro totus.
    • The Order of the Marshal
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: 2011-02-26, 22:08:19 »
Happy Birthday, Sir Ulrich! :)

Forgot to ask:  Does anyone know how many rings are in a typical coif?  I've been kicking around making one, and the prefab rings would speed things up a bit!

EDITED to ask question.
« Last Edit: 2011-02-26, 22:42:25 by The Red Knight »
Gules, a chevron argent between three cinquefoils ermine.
"Better to live one day as a lion, than a thousand as a lamb."
Knight, Order of the Marshal

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: 2011-02-26, 23:02:50 »

How many rings? Quite a lot. :) I know that's not a good answer. I might have to see if I can estimate what's in mine. I estimated that my entire aluminum set (hauberk + coif) is on the order of about 25,000 links, if I remember correctly.

Thought experiment: If the coif is about 25% the weight of the hauberk, the ratio would be 4:1, so 1/5 of the total... which would be about 5,000 links. That number sounds a little high. But I'm just guessing on the ratio at the moment, and in my case the coif has a particularly large mantle. I may have to take a close look at it and see if I can make a better estimate.
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: 2011-02-26, 23:11:32 »

Ooh, KOA also has the GDFB sugarloaf now, for only about $7 over wholesale:

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AB1340&name=Sugar+Loaf+Helmet

Tempting.
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )

Sir Ulrich

  • Squire of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,177
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: 2011-02-27, 01:24:16 »
Thanks guys.
I am thinking of just getting a ready made coif and modify it to fit me and add a chin and neck guard to it. That helmet is also quite tempting for that price.

Sir James A

  • Weapons & Armor addict
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 6,043
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: 2011-02-28, 19:28:39 »
My guess would be 4k-5k rings also, depending on the size of the head, the size of the mantle, and if you make the part that they would tie around their lower face. A basic coif with small mantle is probably 3500-4000 rings, at 9mm diameter?

So glad to see them carrying them. I'm almost at the end of my patience messing with my butted mail shirt; seems like every time I tweak something, try it on for fitment, then take it off, 10 rings come off from random spots just by handling it. :(
Knight, Order of the Marshal
Sable, a chevron between three lions statant Argent

Sir William

  • Cogito ergo sum
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 7,154
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: 2011-02-28, 20:36:09 »
Sir James, I totally understand where you're coming from...it is for that very reason that I switched to a riveted hauberk a couple of years ago.  I experienced ring loss primarily under the arms and in the elbows of my previous mail shirt.
The Black Knight, Order of the Marshal
'Per Pale Azure and Sable, a Chevron counterchanged fimbriated argent.' 
“Pride makes a man, it drives him, it is the shield wall around his reputation.  Men die, but reputation does not.â€

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: KOA has loose rings and pliers for rivetting!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: 2011-02-28, 21:50:29 »

Boy, you said it. I hate losing rings like that. Every faire season I end up with a few on the floor-boards of my car.
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )