You guys never knew Coach Steve, my predecessor at VAF. We were at Dan Gilbert's place, who had a pool in his backyard, and Steve, seeing that Dan owned two Kayaks, immediately challenged Matt Beltz to a naval battle with kayaks, shinai and masks. He laid down the rules that the inflatable Shamu in the water was Denmark, and that the two must complete one full circle around it before engaging forces. All of this was on the spot.