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Time for a gorget!
« on: 2011-01-12, 15:43:10 »
I took a pretty hard thrust to my throat last Sunday and the bib on my mask isn’t really padded enough for that. The guy apologized for not asking if I had a gorget or not but it did make it very obvious to me that I need to add a gorget to my equipment.  :-\

I like this guy’s simple dog collar style gorget and think I’ll try making one nearly as nice as what he offers for a bit cheaper price. I made a temporary one out of some scrap tin and leather that should suffice although it won’t win any blue ribbons for looks!  :D
http://skaldic.com/neck-gorget.htm
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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #1 on: 2011-01-12, 16:12:29 »

Yeah, that does look like it has pretty good coverage. The one I have doesn't come up high enough, I think, but is a lot better than nothing. I have this one:

http://revival.us/brigandinegorget.aspx

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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #2 on: 2011-01-12, 16:21:33 »
I've always liked the look of theirs but they would be too small for my bull neck...which is 19" with the collar of my gambeson.  :-\
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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #3 on: 2011-01-12, 17:45:05 »
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AB0093&name=15th+Century+Leather+Gorget

or see if allan can make you something more to your detailed neck size

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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #4 on: 2011-01-13, 11:13:12 »
You might want to consider something that protects up underneath the chin as well. It's pretty much a sure bet that shots have a way of deflecting up into the underside of your chin. Throat protection is something I don't mess around with.....

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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #5 on: 2011-01-13, 15:45:47 »
Was that during WMA or SCA practice? The one in your avatar looks like a good gorget, though I'm guessing there's a reason it isn't an option.
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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #6 on: 2011-01-13, 19:46:28 »
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AB0093&name=15th+Century+Leather+Gorget
or see if allan can make you something more to your detailed neck size

I guess I could but I hope to engage Allan with some custom reworking of my splinted cuisses.  ;)


You might want to consider something that protects up underneath the chin as well. It's pretty much a sure bet that shots have a way of deflecting up into the underside of your chin. Throat protection is something I don't mess around with.....
Good point (pardon the pun! :D). My fencing mask does cover the underside of my chin pretty well though.

Was that during WMA or SCA practice? The one in your avatar looks like a good gorget, though I'm guessing there's a reason it isn't an option.

I need it for WMA practice. My armor gorget is a fine gorget but is actually a little too big and bulky for that kind of usage. It does a great job of supporting part of the weight of my great helm though!  ;)
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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #7 on: 2011-01-13, 21:06:35 »
You might want to consider something that protects up underneath the chin as well. It's pretty much a sure bet that shots have a way of deflecting up into the underside of your chin. Throat protection is something I don't mess around with.....

The tricky issue here is that this can impede movement quite a bit. Most things that give that much coverage tend to also prevent standing in guards such as Ochs or high vom Tag.

David Teague made me an *awesome* mail standard that has a trauma plate underneath. I love it. Basically, he took a rivetted mail standard from IceFalcon, put it on thick padding, and sewed a hardened plate in between the mail and the padding where the throat is. The result is something that protects the throat incredibly well, fans out to protects the collar bones pretty well, and is flexible enough that I can lift my arms straight up without even really noticing that it is on. The downside is that he made this as a favor (though I paid for the mail), and he doesn't make this commercially. Still, if you ever want to consider a do-it-yourself project, this one would be a great one.
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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #8 on: 2011-01-13, 23:46:13 »
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David Teague made me an *awesome* mail standard that has a trauma plate underneath. I love it. Basically, he took a rivetted mail standard from IceFalcon, put it on thick padding, and sewed a hardened plate in between the mail and the padding where the throat is.

David illustrated this gorget very well here.  Using Bill's gift gorget as a guide, I made a prototype (with butted / blackened mail) that stands up to SCA combat very well.  Between this gorget and an aventail hanging off my bascinet I have no coverage issues, movement restriction or fear of my Adam’s apple being pushed back into my spine.
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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #9 on: 2011-01-14, 02:25:50 »
Wow! Those look great and seem very doable! Thanks for posting the links with all the great reference pictures! :)
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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #10 on: 2011-01-14, 02:46:00 »
let me know if u need some aluminum piece or something. i have some old signs somewheres.

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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #11 on: 2011-01-14, 02:53:26 »
Thanks Sir Wolf...but I've got a few pieces of various metals laying around!  ;)
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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #12 on: 2011-01-14, 14:28:43 »
ok np man. just offered to help ya out :) hehe

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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #13 on: 2011-01-21, 07:54:05 »
David illustrated this gorget very well here

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten he'd posted pics of that!

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Using Bill's gift gorget as a guide, I made a prototype (with butted / blackened mail) that stands up to SCA combat very well.  Between this gorget and an aventail hanging off my bascinet I have no coverage issues, movement restriction or fear of my Adam’s apple being pushed back into my spine.

Very cool! It's a really excellent design. I've never worn a gorget that I've been totally happy with, but this standard is fantastic, both for armoured and unarmoured bouting.
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Re: Time for a gorget!
« Reply #14 on: 2011-02-18, 00:13:47 »
I use an old Regulus gorget in the SCA and with HEMA. Seems to do me well, though when I buy a aventail for my helm I will be going to a dog collar gorget.

If decide to no go with Torvaldr (who does very good work) then consider the ones that Windrose Armoury's uses.

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