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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #120 on: 2011-05-28, 03:14:50 »
add a diamond in between the shoulder blades and maybe one over the breast bone. it helped james barker.

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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #121 on: 2011-06-01, 13:56:35 »
After listening to the advice and recommendations from my instructors at SIGMA along with deep considerations.  I am now all for a 14th Century Harness or Kit.

I will be using Sir Wolf's recommendations on the Merc Tailor kit prototype and I will be posting more prototypes for full harnesses or kits.
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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #122 on: 2011-06-01, 14:54:21 »
Sir Joshua, in all seriousness, make a list of all the kits you've been ogling- unless I miss my guess, you will acquire them all in time.  Choose the one you want the baddest and make that your first kit...it is a process that we all have or are going through...and as I'd said before, that's half the fun right there!
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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #123 on: 2011-06-01, 15:06:19 »
I wish I could even consider dropping a large sum of money for a good steel kit, but unfortunately at this time I am going to have to stick to my lighter stainless steel variety.

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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #124 on: 2011-06-01, 15:37:14 »
I wish I could even consider dropping a large sum of money for a good steel kit, but unfortunately at this time I am going to have to stick to my lighter stainless steel variety.

I really do think the best way to go about this for most people is to slowly build the kit up, little by little. It's hard to drop a lot of cash all at once. The advantage to doing it all at once of course is that it's easier to make everything match. But really, I find that a lot of the time you have to buy things from different places to get it all to fit better anyway.

And besides, the cost is always an issue.
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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #125 on: 2011-06-01, 17:48:19 »
Absolutely!

Here is a picture of Sir Edward and me @ 2007 MDRF when I wore armor for the first time compared to this past Sunday. Four years doesn't seem so long but there was a lot of changes since that first day. :)



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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #126 on: 2011-06-01, 17:51:54 »
One day I will get there. I do have this Breastplate and backpiece that was donated to me by Sir Edward that will be a great starter piece for me. First thing First i need to get it cleaned up. I think that Set may have to wait another season before it makes its first apearance.

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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #127 on: 2011-06-01, 18:10:38 »
Man, I love going back and looking at those pics from a few years ago. It's really cool to see how a kit evolves! Especially when the end result is as photogenic as Sir Brian's is.  ;)

Oh, and cool.. that second photo has me in the kit that this thread is for... so we're back on topic too. :)

EDIT: Yeah, my kit has come a long way since those "full moon" days too... :)

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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #128 on: 2011-06-01, 18:27:19 »
I think your 14th C. kit is really excellent! I can't wait to see it with your new surcoat and don't take this the wrong way but I like your legs!  ;) (except the side plates on the knee cops, I never cared for them when I had them) :-\
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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #129 on: 2011-06-01, 20:48:39 »
I wish I could even consider dropping a large sum of money for a good steel kit, but unfortunately at this time I am going to have to stick to my lighter stainless steel variety.

I can attest to that...I've spent the last five years cobbling together my kit...and I don't have anything left from the original set, except a butted steel coif that I still use from time to time.  For me, that was part of the fun of it...don't get me wrong, I felt pangs of envy every time I saw someone else post up about a new bit of armor or sword but as long as you work within your means, you'll do just fine.

At least that's what I tell myself, daily.  ;)
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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #130 on: 2011-06-01, 21:19:35 »
i feel like the shoemaker. always making kit ideas for others but never myself hehehe

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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #131 on: 2011-06-01, 22:56:37 »
I didnt know you do WWII Sir Wolf, I used to do 1st SAS Brit. years ago.

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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #132 on: 2011-06-01, 23:32:38 »
do u know scott cozad, don burkett, rob slater, bob davis and those guys?

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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #133 on: 2011-06-02, 01:36:40 »
Sir Wolf,

I do know Don Burkett, and Rob Slater, as well as Ray Partenheimer (Hans), I have also meet other WWII Reenactors that enjoy coming to the Ren Faire as well, just don't remember names.

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Re: Ed's Mid 14th C. kit
« Reply #134 on: 2011-06-03, 19:10:27 »
Well, I had a chance to actually fight in this kit last night. It performed pretty well, but it's clear I need to get that torso armor over the mail. Bill and I talked about the idea of using the GDFB simple breastplate, and take the plackart off, and use it like a cheap globose breastplate. So I have one on order now from KOA. I'm going to give that a shot.

I canceled that order for the GDFB "pot helm" I mentioned in another thread. I'm looking back through this thread at some of the klappvisor and round-faced bascinet options out there. The one from Anshelm we mentioned earlier is gorgeous, but we misread the page. It would be something like $900 for that visor, aventail, etc... but not the helm itself! That's another $500-$2000!

So I'm still looking.

This one is listed as "out of stock", but is still an option, and comes with padding and strapping, just no aventail: http://armourandcastings.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=68

I figured I'd post a few photos that I'm using as inspiration while putting this kit together, as a reminder:

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