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Living The Life Of The 'American Jouster'
« on: 2009-10-05, 13:42:03 »
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Re: Living The Life Of The 'American Jouster'
« Reply #1 on: 2009-10-05, 19:32:56 »
Excellent find!
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Re: Living The Life Of The 'American Jouster'
« Reply #2 on: 2010-10-26, 16:13:41 »
Just saw this....good stuff, I'd love to get into jousting.  Wonder how heavy these guys are w/out armor if they are weighing in the vicinity of 350lbs in full armor!

I had a guy tell me, couple of years ago at MDRF that his son's harness weighed 90lbs, that his hauberk alone weighed 50lbs; I saw no reason to disabuse him of that notion as I was not in the mood for argument.  What did I know?  Maybe it WAS true but if that were so, it was a kit I'd never want.  lol
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Re: Living The Life Of The 'American Jouster'
« Reply #3 on: 2010-10-26, 16:57:55 »

Oh, it's quite possible. My first hauberk was 40 pounds in weight, because it's 3/8" ID 14ga galvanized steel butt links. If it were made for someone bigger, or designed to hang longer, it could certainly reach 50. But you're right, you really don't want that. No one knew any better 10+ years ago, but now there's not as much excuse. :)

The jousting harnesses can justifiably be quite heavy, since the the horse carries the weight for you. :) I think most of them tend to be in the 70 to 100 range, including the helm.

My plate harness is currently about 75 with the helm and gauntlets I added recently, and it's not complete (I still need greaves and sabatons, and I need to get my mail standard put together).
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Re: Living The Life Of The 'American Jouster'
« Reply #4 on: 2010-10-26, 19:35:04 »
No way, its that heavy?  You know, I'd read somewhere that authentic armor wasn't necessarily as heavy as we think it might've been...if the steel was forged as opposed to just dished, doesn't the heat treat make it stronger so you could get away with a lighter setup?

Need to dig around, see if I can find where I read that.
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Re: Living The Life Of The 'American Jouster'
« Reply #5 on: 2010-10-26, 19:41:46 »

Yes, that's true. A lot of the armor you can buy these days is overbuilt, so that it can withstand abuse from SCA folks. But it did vary a bit historically, and the later period jousting armors were sometimes pretty crazy.
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Re: Living The Life Of The 'American Jouster'
« Reply #6 on: 2010-10-26, 20:09:46 »
Huh...well, I learned something new today!  A few things really...

I think Sir Wolf, now that I think on it, mentioned a live steel group in MD.  I don't know if I'd like to take that up as part of my calling, but I'd love to try it out.
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Re: Living The Life Of The 'American Jouster'
« Reply #7 on: 2010-10-27, 04:47:24 »
Has anyone seen the documentary?
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Re: Living The Life Of The 'American Jouster'
« Reply #8 on: 2010-10-27, 14:14:03 »
The American Jouster?  I think I have...
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