"He who conquers others is strong; he who conquers himself is mighty."
                -- Lau Tzu

Author Topic: A Great and Terrible King.  (Read 8322 times)

Sir Gerard de Rodes

  • "Chivalry our Strength, Brotherhood our sword"
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ****
  • Posts: 816
  • Robor meum Deus
    • The Freemen Of Gwent
A Great and Terrible King.
« on: 2009-10-04, 15:14:43 »
I have just finished reading " The Great And Terrible King" by Marc Morris.

What an absolutely fantastic biog of one of the most influential royals of the millenium (good or bad) in my opinion. Weather you are a red lion supporter, a red dragon supporter or a 3gold leopard supporter this is a fascinating insight into the life of one of the most succesful medieval kings of England.
Written with an impartial, modern eye, Marc has bared the King for all he was worth with some amaizing insights and deeply personal views on his interpritations of the documented facts of Eddy I`s reign.
Please don`t be put off by past historians attempts at preaching to the public, read for your self, in laymens terms, an account of this most chivalric English kings life.
 ;)
G
"War is at first like a beautiful girl with whom all men long to play,but in the end like a repulsive hag whose suitors all weep and ache" Samuel Hanagid (993-1056)

Sir Brian

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 4,735
  • Felix uxor beatam vitam - Happy Wife Happy Life
    • Order of the Marshal
Re: A Great and Terrible King.
« Reply #1 on: 2009-10-05, 19:26:21 »
Thanks for the heads up! Sounds like a good read! I've read small bits of Edward "Long shanks" and felt
that he never got the credit due him for accomplishing as much as he did for England. It was a shame
his son was such a miserable monarch but his grandson was definitely cut from the same cloth as
the “Hammer of the Scots”!  :)
"Chivalry our Strength, Brotherhood our sword"
Vert, on a Chief wavy Argent a Rose Sable,
a Gryphon Segreant Or

[img width=100 height=100]
<a href="http://s221.photobucket.com/user/Tah908/media/LP_Medals_zpsq7zzdvve.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i221.photobucket.

Sir William

  • Cogito ergo sum
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 7,154
Re: A Great and Terrible King.
« Reply #2 on: 2010-10-26, 16:16:21 »
I am not surprised Edward II proved to be less than a true king; I've noticed like behaviors in children who have parents who have achieved some form of elevation over their own particular childhood- in wanting to give their children everything they themselves did not have growing up, I see it as them effectively hamstringing their kids, killing the intrepid spirit that might otherwise flourish if they had something to strive for, to look forward to.

If Mommy and Daddy hand you everything on a silver platter, what lesson will you have learned?
The Black Knight, Order of the Marshal
'Per Pale Azure and Sable, a Chevron counterchanged fimbriated argent.' 
“Pride makes a man, it drives him, it is the shield wall around his reputation.  Men die, but reputation does not.”

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: A Great and Terrible King.
« Reply #3 on: 2010-10-26, 16:59:19 »
If Mommy and Daddy hand you everything on a silver platter, what lesson will you have learned?

You'll learn to be a lazy entitled narcissist. :)
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )

Sir William

  • Cogito ergo sum
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 7,154
Re: A Great and Terrible King.
« Reply #4 on: 2010-10-26, 18:31:17 »
And that is my point...

It is said that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions...and these parents have the best intentions when they give their kids everything they never had as kids themselves...but it sets those kids up for failure.  Not always, but I've seen it happen more often than not.

And of course, w/regard to Edward III, history, and his father taught him how NOT to be as a king.  He learned it well I think; as Sir Brian mentioned, he could've been cut from the same broadcloth as his grandfather!
The Black Knight, Order of the Marshal
'Per Pale Azure and Sable, a Chevron counterchanged fimbriated argent.' 
“Pride makes a man, it drives him, it is the shield wall around his reputation.  Men die, but reputation does not.”