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How to put on 12th century armor
« on: 2014-07-19, 21:35:11 »
Saw this pictorial demonstrating steps to putting on 12th century Crusader/Templar armor. Thought it interesting for posting.
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #1 on: 2014-07-19, 22:13:15 »
Looks remarkably comfy.
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #2 on: 2014-07-19, 23:39:59 »
Ugh...Step Four. How I hate Step Four......
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #3 on: 2014-07-20, 11:53:02 »
only issue is step 5. is there enough evidence that it actually existed.
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #4 on: 2014-07-21, 16:21:53 »
Quote from: Sir Wolf on 2014-07-20, 11:53:02
only issue is step 5. is there enough evidence that it actually existed.

Mail would be terrible without padding in full force combat. :(
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #5 on: 2014-07-21, 18:44:44 »
I think he's mentioning the front lacing gambeseon.
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #6 on: 2014-07-21, 20:05:46 »
Quote from: Squire Douglas on 2014-07-19, 23:39:59
Ugh...Step Four. How I hate Step Four......

Don't we all. ;)
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #7 on: 2014-07-22, 00:49:14 »
nope i'm not. there is no evidence for a gambeson. none.
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #8 on: 2014-07-22, 03:40:10 »
Quote from: Sir Wolf on 2014-07-22, 00:49:14
nope i'm not. there is no evidence for a gambeson. none.

Had to be padding underneath maille. No way you would wear it without.
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #9 on: 2014-07-22, 11:36:09 »
really? can't say i've ever worn padding before.
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #10 on: 2014-07-22, 11:56:56 »
Quote from: Sir Wolf on 2014-07-22, 11:36:09
really? can't say i've ever worn padding before.

Isn't this true for Viking era as well?
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #11 on: 2014-07-22, 13:12:51 »
Even early eastern armor had some form of linen layered between or underneath. Lamellar would be interwoven with fabric. I would imagine when western armor started it involved layers of cloth, linen, leather, or some combination prior to maille , scales, or plate pieces being common place or standard.
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #12 on: 2014-07-22, 15:50:28 »
I always assumed the striped sleeves peeking out from the mufflers on some effigies was a quilted/padded garment. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #13 on: 2014-07-22, 16:05:32 »
Quote from: Ian on 2014-07-22, 11:56:56
Quote from: Sir Wolf on 2014-07-22, 11:36:09
really? can't say i've ever worn padding before.

Isn't this true for Viking era as well?

I was under the impression Vikings layered several tunics beneath their maille and they didn't start using aketons until they came in contact with the Rus (who got them from the khazars).
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Re: How to put on 12th century armor
« Reply #14 on: 2014-07-22, 17:05:37 »
Quote from: Squire Douglas on 2014-07-22, 15:50:28
I always assumed the striped sleeves peeking out from the mufflers on some effigies was a quilted/padded garment. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

That effigy is mid to late 13th century.
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