How to put on 12th century armor

[Lord Dane]

Saw this pictorial demonstrating steps to putting on 12th century Crusader/Templar armor. Thought it interesting for posting.

[Thorsteinn]

Looks remarkably comfy.

[Sir Douglas]

Ugh...Step Four. How I hate Step Four......

[Sir Wolf]

only issue is step 5. is there enough evidence that it actually existed.

[Sir James A]

only issue is step 5. is there enough evidence that it actually existed.

Mail would be terrible without padding in full force combat.

[Thorsteinn]

I think he's mentioning the front lacing gambeseon.

[Sir Edward]

Ugh...Step Four. How I hate Step Four......

Don't we all.

[Sir Wolf]

nope i'm not. there is no evidence for a gambeson. none.

[Lord Dane]

nope i'm not. there is no evidence for a gambeson. none.

Had to be padding underneath maille. No way you would wear it without.

[Sir Wolf]

really? can't say i've ever worn padding before.

[Ian]

really? can't say i've ever worn padding before.

Isn't this true for Viking era as well?

[Lord Dane]

Even early eastern armor had some form of linen layered between or underneath. Lamellar would be interwoven with fabric. I would imagine when western armor started it involved layers of cloth, linen, leather, or some combination prior to maille , scales, or plate pieces being common place or standard.

[Sir Douglas]

I always assumed the striped sleeves peeking out from the mufflers on some effigies was a quilted/padded garment. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

[Sir Patrick]

really? can't say i've ever worn padding before.

Isn't this true for Viking era as well?

I was under the impression Vikings layered several tunics beneath their maille and they didn't start using aketons until they came in contact with the Rus (who got them from the khazars).

[Ian]

I always assumed the striped sleeves peeking out from the mufflers on some effigies was a quilted/padded garment. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

That effigy is mid to late 13th century.