"I think that more Knights are made on the school-ground than on the battle field."
                ---Benjamin Disraeli
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2   Go Down

Author Topic: Protect thy crotch!  (Read 14181 times)

Thorsteinn

  • Squire of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,470
Protect thy crotch!
« on: 2013-12-19, 18:17:10 »
#1) Protect thy crotch!
#2) Do not deflect shots into thy crotch.

Logged
Fall down seven, get up eight.

Don Jorge

  • Learning is living...
  • Yeoman of the Order
  • Forum Follower
  • **
  • Posts: 480
  • He who fears death is already dead...
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #1 on: 2013-12-19, 18:25:49 »
Honestly...that thrusting was dangerous. My kingdom and my group for fighter practice try to never thrust...it just has too much potential to go wrong!
Logged

Thorsteinn

  • Squire of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,470
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #2 on: 2013-12-19, 18:33:01 »
Quote from: Belemrys on 2013-12-19, 18:25:49
Honestly...that thrusting was dangerous. My kingdom and my group for fighter practice try to never thrust...it just has too much potential to go wrong!

So you promote bad technique?
Logged
Fall down seven, get up eight.

Don Jorge

  • Learning is living...
  • Yeoman of the Order
  • Forum Follower
  • **
  • Posts: 480
  • He who fears death is already dead...
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #3 on: 2013-12-19, 18:43:55 »
Not utilizing a technique isn't promoting bad technique...if we were to say, "dont practice and use it in a tournament" then it would be another issue. In general I have been taught to not try thrusting...especially not when on your knees and eventually you are going to hit someone in the crotch.
« Last Edit: 2013-12-19, 19:02:06 by Belemrys »
Logged

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #4 on: 2013-12-19, 18:47:21 »
It depends a lot on the group. The crotch is a real target, in terms of the martial arts, so it's a question on whether the group is considering it a valid target (with people wearing their cups) or not. Sometimes a thrust for the abdomen or thighs lands wrong too.

Having said that, I have no idea what the SCA standards are for this.

« Last Edit: 2013-12-19, 18:47:52 by Sir Edward »
Logged
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )

Aiden of Oreland

  • Squire of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ***
  • Posts: 926
  • Let faith be my shield and let joy be my steed
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #5 on: 2013-12-19, 21:17:51 »
No need, I have balls of steel. 12 gauge in fact.
« Last Edit: 2013-12-19, 21:29:14 by Sir Aiden »
Logged
-"I raise not the sword, but the shield."-Aiden Max

Sir Wolf

  • He Who is Not to be Named
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 5,389
  • i have too many hats
    • man e faces
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #6 on: 2013-12-19, 21:32:29 »
so, did he not count the shots?
Logged

Sir Douglas

  • Artificer of Stuff and Things
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ****
  • Posts: 815
  • In principio creavit Deus caelum et terram.
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #7 on: 2013-12-19, 21:33:08 »
Quote from: Sir Aiden on 2013-12-19, 21:17:51
I have balls of steel. 12 gauge in fact. I have no need to "protect thy crotch"

I will not make a Duke Nukem joke. I will not make a Duke Nukem joke. I will not make a Duke Nukem joke.  :-X
Logged
Per pale azure and argent, an eagle displayed per pale argent and sable, armed and langued or.

So a Norman, a Saxon, and a Viking walk into England....

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #8 on: 2013-12-19, 21:35:17 »
Quote from: DouglasTheYounger on 2013-12-19, 21:33:08
Quote from: Sir Aiden on 2013-12-19, 21:17:51
I have balls of steel. 12 gauge in fact. I have no need to "protect thy crotch"

I will not make a Duke Nukem joke. I will not make a Duke Nukem joke. I will not make a Duke Nukem joke.  :-X

Now that you've said that, I'm having to bite my tongue as well... Arg! ;)
Logged
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )

Sir Wolf

  • He Who is Not to be Named
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 5,389
  • i have too many hats
    • man e faces
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #9 on: 2013-12-19, 21:44:19 »
lol duke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Logged

Sir Nate

  • Nathan
  • Yeoman of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • **
  • Posts: 1,702
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #10 on: 2013-12-19, 22:28:29 »
Thats what they called be in rumble fumble.
plus who needs kids.

"you dont"

I didnt grow up with duke nukem...
Logged
Nathan Phillip Max
Knight of the Order
"Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil"

Sir James A

  • Weapons & Armor addict
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 6,043
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #11 on: 2013-12-20, 04:37:13 »
Logged
Knight, Order of the Marshal
Sable, a chevron between three lions statant Argent

Aiden of Oreland

  • Squire of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ***
  • Posts: 926
  • Let faith be my shield and let joy be my steed
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #12 on: 2013-12-20, 05:10:43 »
Quote from: Belemrys on 2013-12-19, 18:43:55
Not utilizing a technique isn't promoting bad technique...if we were to say, "dont practice and use it in a tournament" then it would be another issue. In general I have been taught to not try thrusting...especially not when on your knees and eventually you are going to hit someone in the crotch.

Oh no, don't get into a fight with 13 year SCA fighter Thorsteinn. This will get ugly. If you all really want to know, I have been doing SCA for 0 years and 0 days and 0 hours and 0 minutes and 1 second amd a half, the best thing to do is wear an steel cup... With extra padding. Or if your like me you don't need one  ;)
Logged
-"I raise not the sword, but the shield."-Aiden Max

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #13 on: 2013-12-20, 15:00:47 »
« Last Edit: 2013-12-20, 15:01:15 by Sir Edward »
Logged
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )

Thorsteinn

  • Squire of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,470
Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #14 on: 2013-12-20, 16:21:14 »
KrotchPUNT! Available now from Windrose Armoury.

So just some points via the OP:

I'm in the blue pants in the vid, the next Prince of Cynagua is my opponent.

Crotch strikes are allowed in the SCA and are kills, they aren't encouraged, but they are legal kills (thankfully).

Not thrusting is a highly regional thing. Out here in the West Kingdom it's very much allowed. The reason for it's rise over the past 25 years is due to the change from the old style q-tips to the low profile ones, especially with the recent change in the rules allowing tips to be 3/4" x width of Singlehanded sword with 3/8" progressive give. In other Kingdoms they do not allow thrusts to the side of the helm as kills (dunno why), and so thrusts are are not as used.

In the vid I was aiming for his belly, chin, or hips but the sword/gauntlet/vambrace locked up (I'm working to correct that) so I ended up almost hitting his balls more than once. I've noticed that, because the crotch is frowned upon as a target, folks rarely protect themselves for 6-8 in around the crotch. I get kills lots hitting those places (see below vid).

Belemrys: What I meant by bad technique was "If you don't know how to block a common shot, then you can get hit by said common shot". I've won more than one Tourney fight that way.



Logged
Fall down seven, get up eight.
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
« previous next »