Knight Tome

[Aiden of Oreland]

What is the symbolism in the way he lies down? Most of these have men with their legs crossed. Do all knights get these? Or only "famous" ones? If you can tell me everything about it. Sry that It took so long to get the.
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[Aiden of Oreland]

There! Got the pics

[Sir Brian]

If I recall correctly I think it originally meant they served on the crusades. 

[Sir Wolf]

crossed legs= have to pee.

[Aiden of Oreland]

crossed legs= have to pee.

I just knew it... I had my doubts, but this just proves it lol

[Sir Douglas]

If I recall correctly I think it originally meant they served on the crusades. 

That's what I've heard as well, though I've recently heard that may be apocryphal.

I'm also curious as to whether or not the choice of animal at their feet have any significance. Almost every brass or effigy I've seen has either a dog or lion at the knight's feet, though I believe occasionally there are other animals.

[Aiden of Oreland]

http://www.themcs.org/armour/14th%20century%20armour.htm
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If I recall correctly I think it originally meant they served on the crusades. 

That's what I've heard as well, though I've recently heard that may be apocryphal.

I'm also curious as to whether or not the choice of animal at their feet have any significance. Almost every brass or effigy I've seen has either a dog or lion at the knight's feet, though I believe occasionally there are other animals.

I have also noticed animals.

[Ian]

I'm also curious as to whether or not the choice of animal at their feet have any significance. Almost every brass or effigy I've seen has either a dog or lion at the knight's feet, though I believe occasionally there are other animals.

I can't find the source, but I remember reading that a lion is supposed to indicate valor and a dog is supposed to indicate loyalty.

[Aiden of Oreland]

I'm also curious as to whether or not the choice of animal at their feet have any significance. Almost every brass or effigy I've seen has either a dog or lion at the knight's feet, though I believe occasionally there are other animals.

I can't find the source, but I remember reading that a lion is supposed to indicate valor and a dog is supposed to indicate loyalty.

So its just normal heraldry? All the animals meant the same thing like on a coat of arms?

[Ian]

So its just normal heraldry? All the animals meant the same thing like on a coat of arms?

Well, the lion or the dog at the feet of a knight is not related to their personal heraldry.  Any knight regardless of their personal  heraldic charges might have a lion or dog at their feet on their effigy.  But it in theory universally indicates either valor or loyalty depending on the animal.

[Aiden of Oreland]

So its just normal heraldry? All the animals meant the same thing like on a coat of arms?

Well, the lion or the dog at the feet of a knight is not related to their personal heraldry.  Any knight regardless of their personal  heraldic charges might have a lion or dog at their feet on their effigy.  But it in theory universally indicates either valor or loyalty depending on the animal.

Correct, that is what I ment. I have seen a head of a stag at the bottom of one before.

[Sir Douglas]

http://www.themcs.org/armour/14th%20century%20armour.htm
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Hey, nice find! I hadn't seen that before.

[Sir James A]

http://www.themcs.org/armour/14th%20century%20armour.htm
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Hey, nice find! I hadn't seen that before.

Indeed, nice find!

I've seen the different theories on what the crossed legs and animals mean, but I haven't seen anything that I recall that was a solidified "fact" from historical documentation. I do remember the crossed legs being crusades, but I hadn't read about the animals.

[Aiden of Oreland]

http://www.themcs.org/armour/14th%20century%20armour.htm
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Hey, nice find! I hadn't seen that before.

Thanks When I die, I should have one made for me.