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Re: Ridley Scott's "Robin Hood"
« Reply #30 on: 2013-12-03, 21:05:06 »
That's right, kilts didn't appear until a few centuries later. William Wallace actually would have looked more like a knight of the period. I've attached an image of a statue of him that is in Edinburgh Castle:

Yes, the English and Scots would have looked relatively the same on the battlefield from what I understand.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Robin Hood"
« Reply #31 on: 2013-12-03, 22:39:19 »
That's right, kilts didn't appear until a few centuries later. William Wallace actually would have looked more like a knight of the period. I've attached an image of a statue of him that is in Edinburgh Castle:

Yes, the English and Scots would have looked relatively the same on the battlefield from what I understand.

Well even though they didn't wear kilt, William Wallace had the wrong pattern on his kilt. As some of you may know, like we have family heraldic crests, the clans of Scotland had kilt patterns. I actually have a book on that. Also having the same equipment is debatable. They were just farmers and peasants. I mean maybe they took gear from The British.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Robin Hood"
« Reply #32 on: 2013-12-03, 23:39:49 »
That's just it.  A lot of them weren't farmers and peasants.  William Wallace was a noble, not a highland peasant like in the movie.  Also, the standardizing of tartan clan patterns wasn't a development until the 18th century or somewhere thereabouts.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Robin Hood"
« Reply #33 on: 2013-12-04, 03:41:13 »
That's just it.  A lot of them weren't farmers and peasants.  William Wallace was a noble, not a highland peasant like in the movie.  Also, the standardizing of tartan clan patterns wasn't a development until the 18th century or somewhere thereabouts.

Hm... Fascinating. *pulls out a pipe* I did not know that. *puffs out smoke* This is why we have these conversations. I'll look up when tartens developed certain patterns. And also, lets just appreciate how fun the movie is to watch and the sound track of it.
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« Reply #34 on: 2013-12-04, 04:16:04 »
That's just it.  A lot of them weren't farmers and peasants.  William Wallace was a noble, not a highland peasant like in the movie.  Also, the standardizing of tartan clan patterns wasn't a development until the 18th century or somewhere thereabouts.

Yep. Common misconception, just like "family heraldry". No such thing as "standard/common clan tartan".
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Robin Hood"
« Reply #35 on: 2013-12-10, 07:26:16 »
I actually find the very first opening music of Bravheart (plays while the Paramount logo is shown) to be....kind of creepy. I actually HADN'T seen kit until this past summer when I really plunged headfirst into my medieval studies. Picked up the Braveheart/Gladiator 2 disc at Wal-Mart ;) sweet deal for $10!!!

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« Reply #36 on: 2013-12-11, 21:17:10 »
What no army of darkness?

I actually find the very first opening music of Bravheart (plays while the Paramount logo is shown) to be....kind of creepy. I actually HADN'T seen kit until this past summer when I really plunged headfirst into my medieval studies. Picked up the Braveheart/Gladiator 2 disc at Wal-Mart ;) sweet deal for $10!!!
I actually find the very first opening music of Bravheart (plays while the Paramount logo is shown) to be....kind of creepy. I actually HADN'T seen kit until this past summer when I really plunged headfirst into my medieval studies. Picked up the Braveheart/Gladiator 2 disc at Wal-Mart ;) sweet deal for $10!!!
I actually find the very first opening music of Bravheart (plays while the Paramount logo is shown) to be....kind of creepy. I actually HADN'T seen kit until this past summer when I really plunged headfirst into my medieval studies. Picked up the Braveheart/Gladiator 2 disc at Wal-Mart ;) sweet deal for $10!!!
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Robin Hood"
« Reply #37 on: 2013-12-15, 12:06:26 »
You know, I'm quite embarrassed to say this, but I'm a bigger HORROR flick fan than medieval fan, and I HAVE NEVER seen Army of Darkness! Just the Evil Dead part 1 original.....yikes! My secret is out!!!

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« Reply #38 on: 2013-12-16, 01:21:24 »
You know, I'm quite embarrassed to say this, but I'm a bigger HORROR flick fan than medieval fan, and I HAVE NEVER seen Army of Darkness! Just the Evil Dead part 1 original.....yikes! My secret is out!!!

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Re: Ridley Scott's "Robin Hood"
« Reply #39 on: 2013-12-16, 05:52:51 »
You know, I'm quite embarrassed to say this, but I'm a bigger HORROR flick fan than medieval fan, and I HAVE NEVER seen Army of Darkness! Just the Evil Dead part 1 original.....yikes! My secret is out!!!

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May the headless hunt begin! Haha but you should see Army of Darkness you'll love it.
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Re: Ridley Scott's "Robin Hood"
« Reply #40 on: 2013-12-29, 07:50:27 »
Well I've seen "Evil Dead" part 1, the original. Ill have to track down the AOD dvd, I know a friend who's got it. In other news, I'm thinking about putting in my application for the Order. I've been trying -LIKE HELL -to post pics here, but I can't figure it out...(no pc right now, blegh). If anyone WOULD like to see my beginners getup, Ill direct you to my Facebook page, I have pics there. I would think I'm almost ready.......??? It would be a fantastic start for the new year!! 2014!!!!

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Re: Ridley Scott's "Robin Hood"
« Reply #41 on: 2013-12-29, 08:16:33 »
I've been trying -LIKE HELL -to post pics here, but I can't figure it out...(no pc right now, blegh). If anyone WOULD like to see my beginners getup, Ill direct you to my Facebook page, I have pics there.

Can you link them here from Facebook via the [*img*] tags? Like:

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I don't have an internet-connected phone, so I don't know if you can do that with one. Forgive my ignorance if you already tried that. ;)
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« Reply #42 on: 2013-12-29, 19:07:52 »
Important note: the original Evil Dead is the one to watch before Army of Darkness. There was an Evil Dead remake/reboot that came out earlier this year, and while it's similar, it is not the same. It has at least one critical difference that I noticed, and makes Army of Darkness completely non-sequential with the remake.

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« Reply #43 on: 2013-12-30, 15:30:21 »

What's funny is that Evil Dead 1 and Evil Dead 2 were almost the same movie. Same story, same protagonist. But if I recall, Evil Dead 2 is the one that got a little more tongue-in-cheek and directly leads into Army of Darkness.
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« Reply #44 on: 2013-12-30, 15:35:07 »
But the best of all is Evil Dead 1, 2 and Army of Darkness has lots of Bruce Campbell goodness!  ;)
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