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The hand shake
« on: 2013-10-09, 03:44:15 »
While me and my brother were at the MDrenfair for the first time we had a conversation with Sir Barchon of Dingleberry. When saying fair we grabbed one anothers arm (the proper way to shake the hand of a fellow knight) but Sir Nate was unaware of this custom. So Sir Nate grabbed his hand and Sir Barchon said "Oh god! He touched my hand!" And started to wipe his hand off on his stainless steel jousting armor 😆. He told my brother that that is how women shake one anothers hand. I couldn't help but laugh. But to be honest, i almost grabbed his hand too but luckely he grabbed my fore arm before I did. A bit off topic, but while I'm at it. Do you Sir Barchon would take me as an apprentice?
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Re: The hand shake
« Reply #1 on: 2013-10-09, 13:46:01 »

Sir Barchan is great. He does find amusing ways to share knowledge like that. :)

I'm not sure that he'd take on an apprentice directly, since he travels around a lot. The jousting troupe at MDRF is called The Feelancers, and they offer a jousting school, but its held in another state (and is a 2-week intense crash-course). Tennessee, maybe? I forget.
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Re: The hand shake
« Reply #2 on: 2013-10-09, 15:19:06 »
The forearm shake is prevalent in medieval context, at least as far as modern day goes. I'm not sure if there is any historical precedence for it. We have a thread about it floating around on here recently.
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Re: The hand shake
« Reply #3 on: 2013-10-09, 18:59:35 »
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Re: The hand shake
« Reply #4 on: 2013-10-09, 21:16:55 »
The Roman era salute of officers was a more common practice amongst the mounted knights of the day. Did not involve actual contact out of respect for the other's status. Legionaries would use the forearm greeting as rank & file soldiers but upper ranks would respect the elite status of their officers & not make contact (which was not permitted). 
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Re: The hand shake
« Reply #5 on: 2013-10-11, 01:15:02 »
It bases back to medieval Germany, the custom was meant to check for and shake out and daggers up the shakers sleeves, and, you might note, occupied the sword hand.
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Re: The hand shake
« Reply #6 on: 2013-10-11, 02:27:37 »
also hand contact (at least to my knowledge) was part of courtship, things like palming during a dance was considered flirtatious, to actually touch  O.o   that would be quite interesting to interpret. (also why when holding hands at court non wedded persons would be holding hands with out palms touching, only fingers. ).  or at least so I've heard.