"The maximum use of force is in no way incompatible with the simultaneous use of the intellect."
                -- Carl Von Clausewitz

Author Topic: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)  (Read 15082 times)

Ian

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 2,994
14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« on: 2013-07-22, 19:35:21 »
An attempt to spruce up my soft kit headware:

So Historic Enterprises has these new felt hat blanks.  They're just a very basic rounded felt hat shape.  You can leave them as is, but you can also shape felt pretty easily.  I warmed up the tea kettle and steamed the sections of the hat I wanted to shape.  I then stretched the felt over some drinking glasses that had the shapes I wanted to use and let it cool.  It then holds its shape pretty well.  I formed it into a bycocket style hat, and voi'la! 

I had some old tie garters lying around that I used as trim to trim up the edges of the brim.  Then I put used a pewter badge of Saint George on the front to decorate it and used it to secure three pheasant feathers.  Not bad for my first hat making experience!

Here's the shot from the HE website that shows what it looks like unshaped and untrimmed:


Here it is shaped and trimmed


Hand sewed the 'trim' on the brim


Added the badge and 'stuck a feather in my hat'


And historically accurate period non-smile :)
« Last Edit: 2013-07-22, 19:48:35 by Ian »
My YouTube Channel - Knyght Errant
My Pinterest

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

Sir James A

  • Weapons & Armor addict
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 6,043
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #1 on: 2013-07-22, 21:37:29 »
Excellent! The 21st century lacks enough fancy hats!
Knight, Order of the Marshal
Sable, a chevron between three lions statant Argent

Sir Edward

  • Forum Admin
  • Commander of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,340
  • Verum et Honorem.
    • ed.toton.org
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #2 on: 2013-07-22, 22:07:39 »
Great job! It looks really good. It came out better than I would have expected.
Sir Ed T. Toton III
Knight Commander, Order of the Marshal

( Personal Site | My Facebook )

Ian

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 2,994
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #3 on: 2013-07-23, 00:43:14 »
Thanks! It wasn't too bad to make. I figured for the relatively low cost it was worth a shot trying my own hand at it. It's not a Hats by Kat bycocket, but I think it's cool that I can look at it and say I made that!  :) The cool thing is with felt it can be reshaped and reformed to a degree, so you have the option to alter it at a later date or add to it or whatever catches your fancy.
« Last Edit: 2013-07-23, 00:45:05 by Ian »
My YouTube Channel - Knyght Errant
My Pinterest

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

Sir Ulrich

  • Squire of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,177
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #4 on: 2013-07-23, 03:01:33 »
If you got that in green it would be a Robin Hood hat.

Ian

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 2,994
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #5 on: 2013-07-23, 10:09:11 »
If you got that in green it would be a Robin Hood hat.

Yes sir, same style hat!  Bycockets were thought to be worn for riding, hunting, and falconing / hawking.
My YouTube Channel - Knyght Errant
My Pinterest

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

Lord Dane

  • The Hound, Hunter, and Hammer of Justice
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,900
  • Selflessness, Service, Justice.
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #6 on: 2013-07-23, 13:05:32 »
The 14th century top hat.  ;D
"Fides, Honos, Prudentia, Sapiencia" (Faith, Honor, Prudence, Wisdom)
"Fiat justitia ruat caelum" (Let justice be done)

Sir Brian

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 4,735
  • Felix uxor beatam vitam - Happy Wife Happy Life
    • Order of the Marshal
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #7 on: 2013-07-23, 14:33:49 »
Awesome! When I saw your post about your new hat on FB I didn’t realize you started off with such a very basic floppy hat! Well done indeed! :)
"Chivalry our Strength, Brotherhood our sword"
Vert, on a Chief wavy Argent a Rose Sable,
a Gryphon Segreant Or

[img width=100 height=100]
<a href="http://s221.photobucket.com/user/Tah908/media/LP_Medals_zpsq7zzdvve.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i221.photobucket.

Ian

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 2,994
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #8 on: 2013-07-23, 15:58:51 »
Awesome! When I saw your post about your new hat on FB I didn’t realize you started off with such a very basic floppy hat! Well done indeed! :)

Thanks.  Yeah, they start life as basically a bowl shaped hat with a round brim.  Gwen suggests spraying it with a little 50/50 mixture of alcohol and shellac to stiffen it a bit, but I just left it as is, and it holds it's shape just fine after steaming, shaping, and cooling.
« Last Edit: 2013-07-23, 15:59:41 by Ian »
My YouTube Channel - Knyght Errant
My Pinterest

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

Sir Wolf

  • He Who is Not to be Named
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 5,389
  • i have too many hats
    • man e faces
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #9 on: 2013-07-23, 17:07:10 »
very nice.

i have an oooooooooooolllddddddddddd black one. its sorta lost its shape along the way. so i never wear it anymore

Sir William

  • Cogito ergo sum
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 7,154
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #10 on: 2013-07-23, 17:15:36 »
Is it odd that I like the floppy hat as is?  Altho Sir Ian's has much more in the way of swagger.
The Black Knight, Order of the Marshal
'Per Pale Azure and Sable, a Chevron counterchanged fimbriated argent.' 
“Pride makes a man, it drives him, it is the shield wall around his reputation.  Men die, but reputation does not.”

Lord Dane

  • The Hound, Hunter, and Hammer of Justice
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,900
  • Selflessness, Service, Justice.
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #11 on: 2013-07-23, 17:59:28 »
very nice.

i have an oooooooooooolllddddddddddd black one. its sorta lost its shape along the way. so i never wear it anymore

What lost shape?? The hat or the head?? :P LOL JK
"Fides, Honos, Prudentia, Sapiencia" (Faith, Honor, Prudence, Wisdom)
"Fiat justitia ruat caelum" (Let justice be done)

Sir Gerard de Rodes

  • "Chivalry our Strength, Brotherhood our sword"
  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Acolyte
  • ****
  • Posts: 816
  • Robor meum Deus
    • The Freemen Of Gwent
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #12 on: 2013-07-30, 14:36:28 »
Very smart Sir Ian. I also have a hunting hat,  an esential part of my Flemish persona when wearing my chaperon down my back ;)
Although it is not as shapely as that.
G.
"War is at first like a beautiful girl with whom all men long to play,but in the end like a repulsive hag whose suitors all weep and ache" Samuel Hanagid (993-1056)

Lord Ciaran

  • New Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12
  • New Member
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #13 on: 2013-08-09, 19:36:20 »
Ian,
I just ordered and recieved one from them a few days ago. I was pondering how I would shape it. Thanks for the information and inspiration. Awesome hat.

Ian

  • Knight of the Order
  • Forum Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 2,994
Re: 14th Century Bycocket (DIY Mad Hatter!)
« Reply #14 on: 2013-08-09, 19:40:51 »
Ian,
I just ordered and recieved one from them a few days ago. I was pondering how I would shape it. Thanks for the information and inspiration. Awesome hat.

My pleasure!  The tea kettle is what I've found to be the most steady source of steam.  If you boil a regular pot of water it will you'll evaporate a lot more water than you can use, and you may have to keep adding water.  The tea kettle also allows you to really focus where you're steaming so you can work on smaller sections. 

Let it get decently wet, and then as you stretch it, hold it in place as it cools (it will cool pretty quickly), and then just keep repeating til you get it to do what you want.  Get creative on what you use as 'forms' to shape it over, lots of random stuff around the house works really well if it's got the basic shape you want.
My YouTube Channel - Knyght Errant
My Pinterest

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum