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Elder Scrolls Online, beta sign-up
Aiden of Oreland:
--- Quote from: DouglasTheYounger on 2014-02-12, 00:19:37 ---I agree, Sir William. I really have a hard time getting into any kind of multiplayer game, not just MMOs. They're fun every once in a while -- I like the occasional TF2 match, and LotRO is my one major MMO exception -- but I get much more satisfaction from playing alone. It lets me play the game how I want to play. If I'm playing an RPG like The Elder Scrolls, sometimes I like to play it realistically. Walking instead of running everywhere, eating food, sleeping at night: roleplaying. It kind of breaks the immersion when some goofball runs up to you, starts jumping around all over the place, and generally acts silly. Other times, I like being that goofball, and it's a lot easier to do that when you don't have those super-serious spreadsheet gamers calling you a n00b.
I grew up playing games mostly alone, so I just prefer single-player games. I don't like how so many games are starting to favor the social features over a solid single-player experience. Maybe I'm just grumpy and anti-social. ;)
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I grew up with 3 games, Halo 3, Cod 3 & 4, and Oblivion. I definitely love the single player experience. If you're like me, i name my main character after me in ES. I played Oblivion 5 years, 6 hours a day (literally why my grades in school sucked) and you know what, i never got tired of that game. Halo is the only game I play online. Everyone having the same weapons, red vs blue. Its the simple things about that game that i found so fun.
Sir Edward, play Oblivion or Morrowind first. I am dead serious. Then you may play skyrim. Douglas, you can support that statement.
Sir Edward:
It looks like ESO has sent out a beta survey. Hopefully people will point out some of the shortcomings, and they may make some tweaks.
The problem is, the game is about to come out in about 2 months. They're in bug-fixing mode now, so it's unlikely there will be any significant improvements to gameplay, style, art, animation, etc before launch. But, being an MMO, it'll have time to fix those things later.
Sadly, we've come to accept and expect that in the MMO market. The games are nearly always launched before they're ready, and need a solid year after launch to mature.
Sir William:
That's pretty much how I approach games of that type, Douglas- I'm a solo gamer at heart and the immersive experience is supposed to be tailored to me; I've had some fun with online games like the ones I mentioned (I only mentioned them because they are, to date, the only games I've ever played online) and I can see how having some online elements to a single player game might be cool but I do so enjoy the single over the multiplayer experience.
The one caveat that I don't roll with is that I usually run everywhere instead of walk- but I figure, they did it in LOTR so why can't I? Granted, I can't run like that for real- so I enjoy doing it in a game; eventually, they'll make it so you don't have unlimited stamina but until they do....
Aiden, Oblivion was a good suggestion as a precursor to Skyrim, but I wouldn't go any further back. I tried playing Morrowind before I got Oblivion, just to get into it a little, delve a bit into the lore- it was horrible to the eyes; everything- the character models, the stilted way they moved, all the damn reading...lol
I'm sure it was a fantastic game, in fact, I've heard nothing but good things about it...but it needs to stay in the old-gen library.
Truth be told, he needn't play any of the previous ones...even if Skyrim is his first introduction into the single player side of Elder Scrolls...it is that good, wouldn't you agree?
Ian:
--- Quote from: Sir Edward on 2014-02-12, 14:03:45 ---
It looks like ESO has sent out a beta survey. Hopefully people will point out some of the shortcomings, and they may make some tweaks.
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I filled out a very extensive beta survey when I did my first closed beta session months ago, and there was no response, no improvements, no nothing.... I had the same experience every time I played. My concerns were not unique either, so I don't have my hopes up.
It was just too tall of an order to expect the open world experience of ES in an MMO.
Sir Douglas:
--- Quote from: Sir William on 2014-02-12, 15:16:11 ---
The one caveat that I don't roll with is that I usually run everywhere instead of walk- but I figure, they did it in LOTR so why can't I? Granted, I can't run like that for real- so I enjoy doing it in a game; eventually, they'll make it so you don't have unlimited stamina but until they do....
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Lol, this is true. I admit, though, that I don't always follow my own rule. Sometimes I walk just to take in the scenery, but then I get bored and book it to my next location. ;)
I don't really know which game I would recommend as an introduction to TES. I started with Oblivion and it really wowed me. Then I think I did Skyrim next, then Morrowind. I've also played Arena and Daggerfall, though they're a bit different of an experience than the later games and would probably only really appeal to old-school or retro gamers.
They all have their strengths and weaknesses. Morrowind has more diverse RPG mechanics, but it is rather ugly and clunky. I had a hard time getting into it at first; it was a struggle getting through the first few character levels because it felt like my character couldn't do anything right. Once I got some graphical improvement mods and leveled up a bit more, I started enjoying it a lot more.
I'd say Oblivion is sort of the middle-ground between Morrowind and Skyrim. It's not quite as RPGish as Morrowind, but it has a little more to offer in terms of skills and abilities than Skyrim. It's kind of awesome to be able to enchant a pair of pants so that it applies burn damage to whoever's wearing them, then reverse-pickppoket them onto an unsuspecting citizen.
Skyrim is arguably the nicest-looking of the three. The character models are a huge improvement over Oblivion's (where some of the Orcs looked a wee bit too much like Shrek), and the environment is just beautiful. Not quite as alien as Morrowind's, but not as run-of-the-mill European fantasy as Oblivion's. Skyrim's dungeons are a lot more unique as well, and some of them are very ingenious. It's a little more simplified in terms of RPG mechanics than its predecessors, but it also adds some things its predecessors didn't have, especially so if you get all three DLC along with it.
--- Quote from: Ian on 2014-02-12, 16:41:11 ---
It was just too tall of an order to expect the open world experience of ES in an MMO.
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So based just on what you've seen and experienced so far, what do you think will happen after launch? Think it will survive, flop, have to go f2p, or pass into quaint Elder Scrolls history like Redguard and Battlespire?
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