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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #15 on: 2013-05-12, 00:05:19 »

Yeah, any time you join triangles instead of doing expansions, it's really obvious where the pattern shifts. Your eye gets drawn to the seams. With proper expansion rings, the pattern is continuous and uninterrupted.
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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #16 on: 2013-05-12, 03:57:54 »
Duke Icefalcon offers brass wedge riveted maille. Perhaps you could ask him to get you an aventail made out of it as a custom order. Might take a while but if you can wait I'm pretty sure he could.

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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #17 on: 2013-05-12, 09:30:51 »
I'm leaning towards Master Knuut's welded stainless steel aventail. He has them in stock and they are reasonably priced.  ;)
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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #18 on: 2013-05-12, 13:20:43 »
you know Sir Brian, from five feet away or more, which is a nice distance with strangers at faires and such  ;D I have a hard time seeing riveted vs butted vs welded and I know what to look for!  I'm a fan of welded, sure it's new, but man can they be strong, and stainless?! "forgettaboutit!"

btw, in honor of Sir Wolf always pestering me about personal pictures, it dawned on me I had these from last Christmas and thought I'd share them here:
it's me in my butted mail coif for a Gallowglass impression.  My lady figured out how to get it to lay properly at the angles, it's four hexagons seamed together  :o of course it took me about a dozen different tries and ideas before I listened to her  ;D

it'd be the only time I'd recommend doing the "triangle" technique of expansions, and even then, it's for a deliberate purpose.  The basic expansions that I described earlier, they aren't that difficult to get once you get going so to speak, they're really coming in handy on my chausses

Hope you're happy Sir Wolf  :P ;D

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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #19 on: 2013-05-14, 17:29:29 »
Sir Brian,
Marcus of Cap-a-pie is an acquaintance of mine.He used to offer a mail tailor service.  ;)
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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #20 on: 2013-05-14, 20:15:28 »
Cap-a-pie?  I've ogled their wares for the better part of a year now...good looking stuff.
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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #21 on: 2013-05-16, 11:50:51 »
Sir Brian,
Marcus of Cap-a-pie is an acquaintance of mine.He used to offer a mail tailor service.  ;)
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Good to know and thanks Sir Gerard! Does he actually make all his maille? I will send him an inquiry. Although I am a bit conflicted as I think I will have to decide upon one major purchase for the remainder of this year (budget cuts and sequestration, etc.) and I’m leaning more towards finally getting my wisby gauntlets not only for my kit but WMA as well.  :-\
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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #22 on: 2013-05-17, 13:27:54 »
I’m leaning more towards finally getting my wisby gauntlets not only for my kit but WMA as well.  :-\

mmm, that's a tough one Sir Brian.  I know it doesn't mean much, but I'd go with the gauntlets personally.  As you already stated the functionality of them really comes in handy.  They're being allowed for SCA combat now too, since people have been hiding good padding between the glove and the plates  ;)  I desperately need my hands, but I've always loved those gaunts.  Now, I can have both and breathe easy.

Also, have you heard of 3turretsarmoury?  He's a small shop (one guy) out of Ontario, CA that has been making a storm over on the AA with his Wisby gauntlets.  He also sells them in kit form, but the steel parts are already formed, planished and polished! 

That may be a way for you to cut the costs.  It's the route I'm going, if anything because I enjoy creating my own kits but I don't have the means to work with steel at the moment.  Here's a link, directly to his kits: http://3turretsarmoury.info/Wisby-Gauntlet-Kit-001.htm Like I said, he's a small shop, and when I first found him I wasn't sure until I realized who he was on the AA.
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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #23 on: 2013-05-17, 15:25:37 »
Thanks for the link B. Patricius. I had them in my ‘armor favorites’ for awhile now and his kit is a good deal monetarily but one should also consider the time required to complete the project which I have a lot less of and personal experience has shown me hand stitching leather is never fun.  :-\




So I’m leaning more towards this Armorer:
http://www.crimsonforge.com/
I haven’t made any serious inquiries about production times or anything but I do like the look and pricing of their products.  :)
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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #24 on: 2013-05-17, 17:48:49 »
Sounds fair enough to me!  After doing something once, it's always easier to say "nah, I'll pay someone else now!" in case it didn't work out quite as fun.  Still a character building experience according to my Dad, but if it isn't fun, I'm definitely a fan of just getting it over and done with too.  I'm also grateful for my earlier kit... mittens are far less complicated than fingered gloves  ;)

great looking gloves btw
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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #25 on: 2013-05-17, 18:55:17 »
Sir Brian got some serious patience there. I know sewing the mail on the mitten was bad enough, but each finger wow?

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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #26 on: 2013-05-17, 19:49:47 »
Pain staking process Sir Brian. Hope it comes out as planned. Currently working on a new pair of ailettes for my black knight crusader look.
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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #27 on: 2013-05-17, 19:51:51 »
no no, that is a picture from like 3 or 4 years ago! I still wear those gauntlets but I wear the leather demi-gauntlets over them and those gloves are now pretty much black! :)
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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #28 on: 2013-05-17, 19:55:39 »
no no, that is a picture from like 3 or 4 years ago! I still wear those gauntlets but I wear the leather demi-gauntlets over them and those gloves are now pretty much black! :)

Black?? Not 'blue' as Sir Edward will make claim like when leaving his mark upon you.  ;D lol
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Re: Riveted Maille Aventail
« Reply #29 on: 2013-05-17, 19:57:20 »

Nah, the only time I aim for his hands are when he already has a broken finger.

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