New Heraldry

[Lord Dane]

Here's what I'm thinking for my new heraldry. Thoughts??

[Sir James A]

Very modernized, but if that doesn't matter - I like symmetry. Go for it!

[Sir Gerard de Rodes]

I do like the design. 
 In medieval times, gold wasn`t generally  used for "or" (gold) it was replaced with yellow. Much the same as "argent" (silver) was usually replaced with white.
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[Sir Edward]

The symbols in the upper corners are the ones I'm trying to figure out how to describe in heraldic terms, and see if they fit the rules. Are those circles?

So it might be something like "on a rondel argent fimbriated or, a cross pattee sable". What we may need to look up is the validity of having a metal fimbriated with another metal. Otherwise everything else looks valid. I'd consider either removing the gold outline on those circles, or make the circles completely gold (that is, just one metal).

In the end it's up to you of course.

[Lord Dane]

The symbols in the upper corners are the ones I'm trying to figure out how to describe in heraldic terms, and see if they fit the rules. Are those circles?

So it might be something like "on a rondel argent fimbriated or, a cross pattee sable". What we may need to look up is the validity of having a metal fimbriated with another metal. Otherwise everything else looks valid. I'd consider either removing the gold outline on those circles, or make the circles completely gold (that is, just one metal).

In the end it's up to you of course.

Right on the money, Sir Edward. I actually bought some rounded brass besagews that I painted to illustrate the cross pattee on each side to coincide with my tabbard in the pattern shown. The circles just illustrated it better. Your description sounds accurate. I did try the design with that thought both as shown & without the border. Most people I asked liked it with the white & brass outer border. But let me display the other one & you tell me what you think.

The chevron sable fimbriated or, the arming sword argent, and two mullets or are definitive. The cross pattee design is what I was stuck on.

[Lord Dane]

Hope it matches my surcoat.

[Sir Edward]

So far I've found (via wikipedia) mention of "double fimbriation". I still don't see anything about fimbriating a metal with a metal, or how much the rule of tincture applies to the charge and its fimbriation (outline). Generally the rule applies to items on top of others, not next to. So if we interpret that loosely, I think fimbriating the rondels with crosses like that is probably fine from a mostly historical standpoint.

The new version of the shield is definitely "easier" in that regard, but in the end it's still up to you.

[Sir James A]

The sword crossing the "boundary" of the chevron is what throws me.











The only thing I see crossing a division / ordinary is another division / ordinary. Small sample set, and of course not everybody followed the rules back then, but the sword is the thing that jumps at me.

[Sir Edward]

As far as I know, it's OK. Not common, but not disallowed either.

[Sir James A]

As far as I know, it's OK. Not common, but not disallowed either.

Ah, cool, thanks.

[Sir William]

What's the meaning behind the new heraldry, Dane?

[Lord Dane]

The sable (black) color to represent grief and reflect a state of sorrow for any lives I must take in life.
The or (gold) color to symbolize my rank.
The argent (silver or white) color to represent purity.

The crosses pattee to each side symbolize "two sides of every story" and the choices we make in life (good and evil; right and wrong; etc) & burden on each shoulder (i.e. cross we bear) from those choices. Also reflective of a Crusader knight of Catholic/Christian faith (who tends to follow the ideals of the Templars & Teutonics).
The chevron represents my para-military service as a field officer.
The stars represent 2 parts of the Holy Trinity (Son, Holy Spirit) that come together to meet in the chevron apex at the sword (The Father).
The arming sword is "Arbitrator", symbolizing the strength/resolve/wisdom of the divine Father & justice coming to a point in the form of the Cruciform sword. Justice at the point of a sword is the final resolution...and sacrifice I must make in my occupation in order to see it served.
The Great Dane that will adorn my Great Helmet represents me, Dane. Symbolic of an English hound of great prowess, hunting, fortitude, and loyalty. Always alert & ready to serve. It will be bronze in color in a standing position with cropped ears adorning a black & gold mantle with a black torse wrapped in gold wire.

[Sir James A]

Excellent meanings.

[SirNathanQ]

Agreed.

[Lord Dane]

Thank you both & all but which one is liked best?? First or second shield (granted it is a slight difference).