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Sir James A

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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #15 on: 2012-09-19, 05:10:15 »
^ yep
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #16 on: 2012-09-19, 09:56:48 »
could also be that the kettle has some sort of layer over the metal. i have seen this done with a few helmets. where rust shows up and i went to clean it only to find out the rust was under some kinda clear coat that i had now rubbed off leaving a lighter color metal in that spot ;)
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #17 on: 2012-09-19, 14:08:50 »
Quote from: Jessica Finley on 2012-09-19, 02:11:03
Yup - the satin finish is (basically) tons of tiny grooves.  those grooves "catch" water, and encourage rust.  The smoother and shinier the polish, the less grooves, hence less rust.


Yep, this.


Oh, just thought I'd report back on some of the stuff I tried. It looks like BreakFree CLP is working really well as a protectant, and I've been having better luck with both the CLR and the Turtle Chrome Polish for cleaning. Rust does return after wearing the armor if you don't re-seal of course, but so far these products seem to be viable.
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #18 on: 2012-09-20, 17:56:55 »
That's why God created squires.  I had an idea back when we first started talking about an Order, or rather, when Sir Edward did, that maybe our 'squires' would be tasked with light duty assignments, sort of to put them in the 'mood', you know?  Not take-home assignments per se, but while we're all together.  Guess we'd need to do that bit first though, eh?  :)
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #19 on: 2012-09-20, 22:31:44 »
I want to age the appearance of my helms and sword so they look old like they're a family heirloom armor and weapons that was passed down. Also could be an excuse for having something from an older time period in a later one. We should have a tutorial on antiquing.
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #20 on: 2012-09-21, 00:23:31 »
Quote from: Sir Ulrich on 2012-09-20, 22:31:44
I want to age the appearance of my helms and sword so they look old like they're a family heirloom armor and weapons that was passed down. Also could be an excuse for having something from an older time period in a later one. We should have a tutorial on antiquing.

That process is called "oxidation" commonly known amongst armor wearing folks as "RUST".   ;D
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #21 on: 2012-09-21, 03:12:56 »
Quote from: Sir Ulrich on 2012-09-20, 22:31:44
I want to age the appearance of my helms and sword so they look old like they're a family heirloom armor and weapons that was passed down. Also could be an excuse for having something from an older time period in a later one. We should have a tutorial on antiquing.

Pee on it, and leave it outside for a while.

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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #22 on: 2012-09-21, 20:27:30 »
Pee on it?  I was gonna say to bury it in the yard for a year then dig it back up.  Of course, I wouldn't do it to an Albion.  Now that I think on it, I recall Sir Edward's Albion Knight having a nice bit of patina on the hilt components as well as the blade...you should ask him how he did that.
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #23 on: 2012-09-21, 22:29:36 »

That came from displaying it on a wall-rack without re-oiling for quite some time. :)
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #24 on: 2012-09-22, 07:34:55 »
You can get the same effect if you keep sweaty fighting gear in your sword bag as well. ;)
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #25 on: 2012-09-22, 09:31:17 »
Quote from: Sir Brian on 2012-09-22, 07:34:55
You can get the same effect if you keep sweaty fighting gear in your sword bag as well. ;)

And have a vintage stench as well as patina.  :o
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #26 on: 2012-09-23, 03:35:44 »
Quote from: Sir William on 2012-09-21, 20:27:30
Pee on it?

Yep. Something to do with uric acid causing metal to rust quickly.
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #27 on: 2012-10-19, 16:16:27 »
Quote from: Sir William on 2012-09-20, 17:56:55
That's why God created squires.  I had an idea back when we first started talking about an Order, or rather, when Sir Edward did, that maybe our 'squires' would be tasked with light duty assignments, sort of to put them in the 'mood', you know?  Not take-home assignments per se, but while we're all together.  Guess we'd need to do that bit first though, eh?  :)

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As a Templar sergeant, I am quite used to doing menial tasks for the knights of my Order, and as long as I am allowed the privilege of battle, I serve them willingly. "In 1130, Bernard of Clairvaux drew up the rules for the new Knights Templar order. Bernard set up the order with two main classes of knighthood, the knights and sergeants or serving brethren. Sergeants or serving brothers wore a black or brown mantle to show their lower status, whilst the Knights wore a red cross granted by Pope Eugenius III. Married men who joined the order could only join as sergeants, their property coming into the possession of the Order rather than to their wives upon their death." Whole article here: http://www.middle-ages.org.uk/knights-templar-history.htm and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar ...

While you gentlemen are not Templars, you are still noble and if we are ever able to spend more than the usual few minutes at Faire together (perhaps at Pennsic next year?), I would be happy to take on the servant's role. - As long as I get to FIGHT!  ;D
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #28 on: 2012-10-19, 22:12:49 »
Oh, the many, many hours I could entertain you with cleaning...

Nice excerpt. I wonder where they pulled it from?
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #29 on: 2012-10-19, 22:42:27 »
Very interesting Silvanus. I enjoy reading your posts. Hope I can meet you next outing. Templars always peek my interest. :)
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