Attaching an Aventail... AND Done!

[Thorsteinn]

What is more period/better looking to attach an aventail to a helm with?

Use a strip of leather ala the Windrose Tried & True method or do a wire & metal strip attachement?

-Ivan

Me posing for roommates work assignment picture.

[Thorsteinn]

I'm thinking of it as mine is a Windrose hat and was designed to have an aventail.

Like this:

[Ian]

All I know is 14th century bascinets were historically attached to the leather via some sort of heavy thread in the examples I've seen.  This is the Lyle Bascinet in the Royal Armouries, and you can make out the thread sewn through the leather and then the upper most rings of the aventail.

[Thorsteinn]

Ordered a Long SS Aventail from Master Knuut today.

With shipping it came to $235.

[Sir Wolf]

woahh 

[Thorsteinn]

woahh 

What? 

Oh and I already got an email stating it's been shipped by Master Knuut (www.weldedchainmail.com) How cool is that?!   

[Sir James A]

Congrats, I've heard nothing but good things about the welded mail ... well, only complaints I've heard is price, but when you're the only maker in a niche market and production cost is high....

[Thorsteinn]

Congrats, I've heard nothing but good things about the welded mail ... well, only complaints I've heard is price, but when you're the only maker in a niche market and production cost is high....

Most aventails of that size cost more near as I can see. Icefalcon had a nice riveted one for $275. Sweet looking too but Knuuts have a rep for lasting a good long time with hard use.

[Sir James A]

Congrats, I've heard nothing but good things about the welded mail ... well, only complaints I've heard is price, but when you're the only maker in a niche market and production cost is high....

Most aventails of that size cost more near as I can see. Icefalcon had a nice riveted one for $275. Sweet looking too but Knuuts have a rep for lasting a good long time with hard use.

Did you get it new or used? There was one on AA a little while back that was something like $495 or $595, I almost fell off my chair. I'd favor a riveted over welded at similar prices, since riveted is "more" historically accurate (not that either is near perfect..), but that's personal preference too.

[Thorsteinn]

New from Knuut and from Icefalcon too.

http://store.fastcommerce.com/icefalcon/stainless-aventail-large-ff80818117d2f8570117ec23cee66727-p.html

Are you thinking of a Byrnie by chance?

[Sir James A]

New from Knuut and from Icefalcon too.

http://store.fastcommerce.com/icefalcon/stainless-aventail-large-ff80818117d2f8570117ec23cee66727-p.html

Are you thinking of a Byrnie by chance?

I'm drawing a complete blank on specifics. Possibly this? (http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=135984&p=2020807&hilit=knuut+welded+mail#p2020807), the WMA part caught my eye, but it's a helmet with the mail, so I don't think it was that. Maybe it was a titanium one I saw, and not stainless? This guy bought a titanium coif for $450 from Knuut (http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=123464&p=1807070&hilit=titanium+coif#p1807070) although it looks like he lowered his price to $400 (http://www.weldedchainmail.com/ordering.htm). It definitely wasn't a byrnie / haubergeon / hauberk. Might have been a coif instead of an aventail, I know it was head gear though.

[Thorsteinn]

Yeah, the first is helm + mail. For mine that would be a $570 Helm + $225 Aventail + $10 bits to afix them together.

The TI thing makes sense. Since 2001 TI's gone way up in price (M-777 anyone?).

[Sir Wolf]

no i remember his prices used to be in the 450s. due to labor cost, hmmm interesting

[Thorsteinn]

It has arrived!

[Sir Wolf]

very cool!