Cross worn on back

[SirNathanQ]

Well in fact the Idea of what a crusade was wasn't anywhere close to being settled in 1095. The Vatican had at the time gotten around with the ideas of just war, and various benefits to those who fought in the reconquista, but not a full blown crusade.
In period they were known as armed pilgrimages, and not crusades.
The real establishment of what in fact the spiritual benefit even was (a blessing, a penance, an indulgence, ect) weren't really laid out until Pope Innocent lll really delved headfirst into the Idea. In fact the earliest uses and meaning of the term Crusade simply as a drive to create a state centered upon he city of Jerusalem.

And Just Wondering, is the source period? If so, had he personally been on Crusade, or was he simply writing a form of Documentary? If not, credentials and further examination of material. I am interested in this, but I would like to see to the sources credibility first.   

[Frater de Beaumanoir]

I was talking about "recruiting" techniques, not what the main event was to be titled. 

[ECOX]

Huzzah Frater !!! I am humbled by just how little I know. The more I read on here, the thirstier I get to learn more.

[Frater de Beaumanoir]

Brother ECOX, Greetings an Pax vobiscum. Good to see the colors you've declared! 

[SirNathanQ]

But still, the Papacy wasn't really in any sense recruiting. Often those leading the crusade did so without actually thinking themselves under any kind (besides spiritual) or subservience to the Vatican. 

[Frater de Beaumanoir]

Maybe "recruiting" is too ambiguous a term, maybe more like; where to focus the efforts of the armed Faithful in support of long term objectives and in an intrest to up hold the focus of the Peace/Truce of God (spiritual sanctions in order to limit the violence of armed Christians and restless Chivalry against the common man and churchmen of the time).

 

[ECOX]

Tecumque amice Frater. I have always been drawn to The Templar cross with out knowing much about it. I find now that my kit has some much needed improvements.

[Sir Wolf]

with all the knowledge here now i'm sure you will have a 100% awesome kit in no time.

[SirNathanQ]

Lol, much simpler! 

I just didn't like the sound of recruitment, too many inaccurate connotations could be drawn by the unknowing.

Yes, we need more military order kits! Stick with it, you'll have it in no time.   

[Lord Dane]

I had a Gentleman tell me that crusaders always wore their crosses facing toward Jerusalem. IE; worn on their back when returning home. I haven't found any reference to this. The man that told was a Knight in a jousting troupe. I didn't ask a lot of questions figuring I would just Google it. Has anyone here heard of this?

Irrelevant seeing most Order knights/crusaders wearing tunics, surcoats had their crosses beared also upon their riding capes so ..... I wouldn't give that supposed practice or myth much on merit but who knows. Ritualistic practices were not commonly shared in writing outside of those who engaged in them. But it is interesting none the less.

[Lord Dane]

Well in fact the Idea of what a crusade was wasn't anywhere close to being settled in 1095. The Vatican had at the time gotten around with the ideas of just war, and various benefits to those who fought in the reconquista, but not a full blown crusade.
In period they were known as armed pilgrimages, and not crusades.
The real establishment of what in fact the spiritual benefit even was (a blessing, a penance, an indulgence, ect) weren't really laid out until Pope Innocent lll really delved headfirst into the Idea. In fact the earliest uses and meaning of the term Crusade simply as a drive to create a state centered upon he city of Jerusalem.

And Just Wondering, is the source period? If so, had he personally been on Crusade, or was he simply writing a form of Documentary? If not, credentials and further examination of material. I am interested in this, but I would like to see to the sources credibility first.

Pope Urban II would have had a great future in marketing.