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Re: Teutonic Knight Kit. 1370s Flavor!
« Reply #45 on: 2011-07-28, 00:08:18 »
I personally don't think it was really standard among the Templars or Teutonic Knights.

And so would the beatific cross be what I'm sporting on my surcoat?
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Re: Teutonic Knight Kit. 1370s Flavor!
« Reply #46 on: 2011-07-28, 13:21:23 »

You know, that's a good question. Some quick googling isn't turning up much on beatific crosses.

I think what you've put together looks great, BTW :)
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« Reply #47 on: 2011-07-28, 14:56:34 »
Thank you Sir Edward! I'm really thrilled with how the surcote and mantle came out also!
In about 2 weeks or so I should be able to order the Hauberk.  :D
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« Reply #48 on: 2011-07-28, 16:46:43 »
Thank you Sir Edward! I'm really thrilled with how the surcote and mantle came out also!
In about 2 weeks or so I should be able to order the Hauberk.  :D

Awesome, I can't wait to see it together!
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« Reply #49 on: 2011-07-29, 01:37:25 »
Yeah, look out MDRF!  :D
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« Reply #50 on: 2011-08-01, 16:30:23 »
Thank you Sir Edward! I'm really thrilled with how the surcote and mantle came out also!
In about 2 weeks or so I should be able to order the Hauberk.  :D

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« Reply #51 on: 2011-08-01, 17:27:59 »
I'm going to try for wedge-riveted/solid ring maille. flat ring.
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Re: Teutonic Knight Kit. 1370s Flavor!
« Reply #52 on: 2011-08-02, 14:43:15 »
The beatific cross is used by the Militia Templi, like so:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maltese_Cross_variant_red.svg

I couldn't get it to show up so I'm leaving the link instead.
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« Reply #53 on: 2011-08-03, 02:49:42 »
It's not teutonic or templar, but it's that "other" 3rd massive knightly group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Hospitaller

It talks about a couple different variations of the cross being used, as well as the change in colors. I think the templars would have done something similar before getting a (mostly) standard style. I've seen 3 different styles. It looks like what I call the maltese cross is a "cross pattee".

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« Reply #54 on: 2011-08-03, 21:27:18 »
and so I guess I'd be sporting a stylized cross Moline.

And I'm familiar with the Hospitallers. Us Teutonic knights originally were a Branch of the Hospitallers, but German, and organized along the lines of the Templars (as to be more Militaristic)

and from what I remember, there is some serious variations allowed, as long as it's a black cross upon white. It's really only specified with the Hochmeister's insignia (cross Potent)
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Re: Teutonic Knight Kit. 1370s Flavor!
« Reply #55 on: 2011-08-04, 15:07:43 »
I do like the Patriarchal cross.

Edited to add: the formee branchee is the closest to the 'cross of the beatitudes' I have read about; will find link later.

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« Reply #56 on: 2011-08-15, 18:15:46 »
In Spanish, 'ser' is a verb form meaning 'to be'.  Had I had 'Soy William' then that would mean 'I am William'.  The temporary verb form is 'estar', which also means 'to be', but not permanently, like 'ser'.  Such as, 'estoy aqui', or 'I am here'.  Heh.  Surprised I remember that...high school was a LONG time ago.  lol

But no...my meaning is an alternative form of 'sir' which I like for aeshetic reasons.

I keep forgetting I wanted to mention-- you could also go with "Syr" as the middle-english form of "Sir". It's pronounced like "seer", with a very light rolled "R".
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« Reply #57 on: 2011-08-15, 19:06:17 »
Hey, I like that...see?
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« Reply #58 on: 2011-08-15, 20:39:54 »
no its seer :P hahahha jkjk

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Re: Teutonic Knight Kit. 1370s Flavor!
« Reply #59 on: 2011-08-16, 04:13:02 »
It's not teutonic or templar, but it's that "other" 3rd massive knightly group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Hospitaller

It talks about a couple different variations of the cross being used, as well as the change in colors. I think the templars would have done something similar before getting a (mostly) standard style. I've seen 3 different styles. It looks like what I call the maltese cross is a "cross pattee".


My fave out of those is the cross Potent. Reminds me of the Jerusalem cross a bit too.