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Joshua Santana:
Another thing I forget

this helmet for the prototype Merc's Tailors Italian Harness (although it is a jousting armet I know but would quallify for an italian armet or maximilian armet!)

Sir James A:
You have fantastic taste. I'd do terrible things for those Historic Enterprises harnesses. :)

Have you seen the famous Sigismund of Tyrol harness? That one is the epitome of high gothic - and immense cost to reproduce.

I think Allan might (don't quote me on it!) be willing to do the fluting. From my chats with him, it's more of a lack of time for R&D into new projects that is what he's avoiding. Adding flutework to an existing template wouldn't require any change to the pattern, as far as I know, so it's worth asking about.

Sir Edward:
It's true that the pointing makes it really hard, if not impossible, to put everything on yourself.

I've put myself into my plate armor once or twice, but that was before I added the points on the top edge of the arms, and before I added the voiders. The upper-arm points would have to be pulled taught and then tied with one hand. The voiders restrict me from bending my elbows somewhat, and it's enough to keep me from being able to get both hands up to the same shoulder to tie on the pauldrons. I could see maybe doing this solo if I made the laces really long, so that I could pull one end with my teeth.    :-\

The buckles at the waist level to hold the breast+back plates together were always very difficult to do by myself, but not impossible, just because of the angle. Same with the buckles on the vambraces, which have to be done one-handed.

Everything below the waist is simple to do by yourself.

Joshua Santana:
Good point Sir Edward, one thing that I blatantly forgot to add is this. 

I myself am designing this harness to serve several functions.  They are for me as a Knight For Hire (yep, it's true!)  and as a HEMA Kit for my studies in the German Medieval Martial Arts.  I wanted a kit that was simple, but good looking and historically accurate with no need for the living historians to roll in their graves due to a single error.  Also as a kit for the SCA, Adrian Empire and Markland.  Yep, I may be crazy but I gotten many requests on Facebook to either attend the meetings or fight practices from all three of the organizations!

So, to make thing a bit easier why not I compare and contrast two potential harness.

I will start with the German Gothic Placard/Brigandine Harness





















Now the Italian Harness


(Ice Falcon Armory)













I hope this helps

Joshua Santana:
Another thing I just recalled from last night is GDFB's Venetian Sallet.

This to me, would work perfectly with an Italian Style Harness. 

This would go along with the prototype for the Italian Harness I compiled.



And better yet, I have considered on asking Allan to flute the breast plate, gauntlets, arms, legs and maybe pauldrons with a simple Gothic arch that would be perfect for this helmet!

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