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Thorsteinn

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Protect thy crotch!
« on: 2013-12-19, 18:17:10 »
#1) Protect thy crotch!
#2) Do not deflect shots into thy crotch.

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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #1 on: 2013-12-19, 18:25:49 »
Honestly...that thrusting was dangerous. My kingdom and my group for fighter practice try to never thrust...it just has too much potential to go wrong!
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #2 on: 2013-12-19, 18:33:01 »
Quote from: Belemrys on 2013-12-19, 18:25:49
Honestly...that thrusting was dangerous. My kingdom and my group for fighter practice try to never thrust...it just has too much potential to go wrong!

So you promote bad technique?
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #3 on: 2013-12-19, 18:43:55 »
Not utilizing a technique isn't promoting bad technique...if we were to say, "dont practice and use it in a tournament" then it would be another issue. In general I have been taught to not try thrusting...especially not when on your knees and eventually you are going to hit someone in the crotch.
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #4 on: 2013-12-19, 18:47:21 »
It depends a lot on the group. The crotch is a real target, in terms of the martial arts, so it's a question on whether the group is considering it a valid target (with people wearing their cups) or not. Sometimes a thrust for the abdomen or thighs lands wrong too.

Having said that, I have no idea what the SCA standards are for this.

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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #5 on: 2013-12-19, 21:17:51 »
No need, I have balls of steel. 12 gauge in fact.
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #6 on: 2013-12-19, 21:32:29 »
so, did he not count the shots?
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #7 on: 2013-12-19, 21:33:08 »
Quote from: Sir Aiden on 2013-12-19, 21:17:51
I have balls of steel. 12 gauge in fact. I have no need to "protect thy crotch"

I will not make a Duke Nukem joke. I will not make a Duke Nukem joke. I will not make a Duke Nukem joke.  :-X
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #8 on: 2013-12-19, 21:35:17 »
Quote from: DouglasTheYounger on 2013-12-19, 21:33:08
Quote from: Sir Aiden on 2013-12-19, 21:17:51
I have balls of steel. 12 gauge in fact. I have no need to "protect thy crotch"

I will not make a Duke Nukem joke. I will not make a Duke Nukem joke. I will not make a Duke Nukem joke.  :-X

Now that you've said that, I'm having to bite my tongue as well... Arg! ;)
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #9 on: 2013-12-19, 21:44:19 »
lol duke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #10 on: 2013-12-19, 22:28:29 »
Thats what they called be in rumble fumble.
plus who needs kids.

"you dont"

I didnt grow up with duke nukem...
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #12 on: 2013-12-20, 05:10:43 »
Quote from: Belemrys on 2013-12-19, 18:43:55
Not utilizing a technique isn't promoting bad technique...if we were to say, "dont practice and use it in a tournament" then it would be another issue. In general I have been taught to not try thrusting...especially not when on your knees and eventually you are going to hit someone in the crotch.

Oh no, don't get into a fight with 13 year SCA fighter Thorsteinn. This will get ugly. If you all really want to know, I have been doing SCA for 0 years and 0 days and 0 hours and 0 minutes and 1 second amd a half, the best thing to do is wear an steel cup... With extra padding. Or if your like me you don't need one  ;)
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #13 on: 2013-12-20, 15:00:47 »
« Last Edit: 2013-12-20, 15:01:15 by Sir Edward »
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Re: Protect thy crotch!
« Reply #14 on: 2013-12-20, 16:21:14 »
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So just some points via the OP:

I'm in the blue pants in the vid, the next Prince of Cynagua is my opponent.

Crotch strikes are allowed in the SCA and are kills, they aren't encouraged, but they are legal kills (thankfully).

Not thrusting is a highly regional thing. Out here in the West Kingdom it's very much allowed. The reason for it's rise over the past 25 years is due to the change from the old style q-tips to the low profile ones, especially with the recent change in the rules allowing tips to be 3/4" x width of Singlehanded sword with 3/8" progressive give. In other Kingdoms they do not allow thrusts to the side of the helm as kills (dunno why), and so thrusts are are not as used.

In the vid I was aiming for his belly, chin, or hips but the sword/gauntlet/vambrace locked up (I'm working to correct that) so I ended up almost hitting his balls more than once. I've noticed that, because the crotch is frowned upon as a target, folks rarely protect themselves for 6-8 in around the crotch. I get kills lots hitting those places (see below vid).

Belemrys: What I meant by bad technique was "If you don't know how to block a common shot, then you can get hit by said common shot". I've won more than one Tourney fight that way.



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