Good inspirational movies

[B. Patricius]

ron is great in just about everything he's ever been in. a class actor. i really liked him in that steampunk french dubbed film

what!?! there's a steampunk film that's dubbed in french and it has Ron Perlman?!? WTF?!  Links, Pics, or vidcaps or BAN!!    - on a more serious note, I'm definitely interested in that one!

[Sir Wolf]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112682/

[B. Patricius]

now that is a creepy looking movie! I just checked out the trailer on Youtube, made sure it was the right movie too.  Ron Perlman has always seemed to choose his own work, it's nice to see he's getting good recognition finally.  A lot of people didn't know he played Beast in the "Beauty and the Beast" musical.  It was that part that made del Toro and Mignola want him to play Hellboy, which I think is his best character to date.  He IS Hellboy.

And why not!?!  in ode to Ron Perlman as Big Red, and they are great movies:



I'm a fan of the comics, but I really like where they took Liz and HB in the movies, totally didn't see that coming and loved the concept of it.  It'd be nice to see a trilogy, and I'm not really one for sequels most often.

[Sir Wolf]

the third one is in the works

[Sir William]

Perlman played the Beast in the tv series w/Linda Hamilton as well, that was the first time I'd seen and heard of him.  I thought he was awesome.  He also had a bit part as a wheelchair bound liquor store owner in the Punisher fan film w/Tom Jane.

[Corvus]

I thought the original Hellboy was pretty darn good, actually   Waitin on the new Riddick movie - now that will be dark and 'fun' filled

[B. Patricius]

Just thought of another movie, this one, while not epic in the sense of the others, the half-pint loves it and it does have some good humor and action in it to boot, and for some reason, I can't get my Scot-TISH Bro-gue ou ov me head when thainkun a-boout it!:


and I gotta add this one too:
EPIC documentary, fun to watch while working on my mail

[Sir Brian]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112682/

Rumor has it the original ‘Working Title’ was "Dora the Explorer goes to Public Middle School" 

[Sir Nate]

is there any proof to queen elizabeth fighting.
I think Kingdom of heaven.
Robin hood 2010
Arn the templar
Iron clad
and braveheart are all inspiring, and really good showings of medieval eras and the affect it had on people back then.

[B. Patricius]

is there any proof to queen elizabeth fighting.
I think Kingdom of heaven.
Robin hood 2010
Arn the templar
Iron clad
and braveheart are all inspiring, and really good showings of medieval eras and the affect it had on people back then.

if you want to bring up Elizabeth fighting... don't get me started on Kingdom of Heaven, let alone Braveheart.  Braveheart is an atrocity to all Gaels and the Scots and Irish in particular.  What's a thousand years between friends and Hollywood though right?  Far as I'm concerned, everything I deal with at every event, stems from those two movies and my desire to make things right and respect those that lived and died in those times. 

Braveheart hits home for me because I am Irish-Scot.  Born in Galway. 

For Kingdom of Heaven, the Templars in particular, the truth versus the myth is just so saddening... Guy and Reynald were never Templars for one.

now, for entertainment?  All good movies.  But for a "really good showing of medieval eras and the [e]ffect it had on people back then" no... not even close.  No offense, but this is who and what I am.  I'm an Experimental Archaeologist.  So for me, those movies are just downright atrocious as far as historical accuracy.  you'd do just as well watching Star Wars as Braveheart to learn how Scots fought the English in the late 13th century.

[Sir Douglas]

I've never even seen Braveheart aside from a few short scenes here and there. I just have no desire to watch it. I probably should at least once just so I can say I saw it, but I jut don't think I could sit through it.

Kingdom of Heaven, on the other hand, I liked as a movie, and the costumes were [with a few notable exceptions] more or less period and rather nice-looking for a Hollywood production (meaning not overly fantasized). As a historical reference...not so much, but as an entertaining movie, yes. I think it's enjoyable, as long as you know fact from fiction. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't, nor do they care to look into it any deeper than what's on the screen.

How they portray the Templars is probably my biggest beef. These days, it seems like it's "cool" to portray the Templars as bad guys (see also: Assassin's Creed). Then again, considering how the Order ended, I guess it was cool to pick on them back then, too. It really is a shame.

Between Kingdom of Heaven and Arn: The Knight Templar, I'd have to say I like Arn more. To me, it was just a better storyline; it wasn't your typical Hollywoodized "Attractive hero rides off into the sunset with attractive leading lady ad they live happily ever after". I found that Arn's ending left me more satisfied with the story than KoH, but maybe that's just me. I'm sure a lot of people don't feel the same way about it.

[B. Patricius]

I've only seen bits and pieces of Arn personally, and man oh man do I love what I've seen.  I can't wait to find it to purchase lol.  And yes, yes I have Arn's sword on my dream wishlist of movie memorabilia.

I think personally the Templars are picked on because they're an easy target.  Just imagine someone slandering the Knights Hospitaller... yeah good luck with that one.  They're still around, and going strong, so they have the funds, connections, and ability to sue outright anyone.  The Templars to me, are the ones that in chivalry, I've sworn to defend as they are helpless.  All we can do is try to change opinion, and if not, at least point in the proper direction.  For example, "The New Knighthood" by Malcolm Barber is an excellent example to direct people too.  Amazing read.

As to Kingdom of Heaven, surprise surprise, we have WETA workshop to thank for those amazing kits of garb.  My only complaint, and really it's just my personal preference and it's more accurate is if the Templars and Hospitallers wore long sleeved habits instead of surcoats.  I love that look.  But it also would run the beauty that is all that mail!    Sometimes I watch that movie just to keep inspired as I work on my own riveted hauberk.

[Sir Douglas]

I've only seen bits and pieces of Arn personally, and man oh man do I love what I've seen.  I can't wait to find it to purchase lol.  And yes, yes I have Arn's sword on my dream wishlist of movie memorabilia.

I think personally the Templars are picked on because they're an easy target.  Just imagine someone slandering the Knights Hospitaller... yeah good luck with that one.  They're still around, and going strong, so they have the funds, connections, and ability to sue outright anyone.  The Templars to me, are the ones that in chivalry, I've sworn to defend as they are helpless.  All we can do is try to change opinion, and if not, at least point in the proper direction.  For example, "The New Knighthood" by Malcolm Barber is an excellent example to direct people too.  Amazing read.

If you can find it, get the complete version of Arn. The cut-down international version is pretty phenomenal by itself, but the entire thing fills in so many holes that the international cut left out.

That's a good point about the Templars. It's just like slandering a dead man—they aren't around to defend themselves. You can say whatever you want and people will believe it because they don't want to look into it for themselves.


But back to movies before I get too off topic.

There are still two movies that I'd particularly like to see that are a little more difficult to find. The War Lord with Charlton Heston and 2007's Mongol. I don't expect The War Lord to be terribly accurate considering it's a 1960s movie, but it looks interesting. I heard Mongol was pretty okay, but don't know much about it other than that it exists.

And for the record, I have seen The Conqueror with John Wayne. Let's just say that the Duke as Genghis Khan....yeah, no.

[Sir Nate]

There are things in kingdom of heaven that make me mad. Especially the Templars!
1. would never be hanged in public
2. Reynald of chattilon was not a templar. Although he was wicked.
3. Tiberius tho he was awesome, was made up completely.

[B. Patricius]

I've only seen bits and pieces of Arn personally, and man oh man do I love what I've seen.  I can't wait to find it to purchase lol.  And yes, yes I have Arn's sword on my dream wishlist of movie memorabilia.

I think personally the Templars are picked on because they're an easy target.  Just imagine someone slandering the Knights Hospitaller... yeah good luck with that one.  They're still around, and going strong, so they have the funds, connections, and ability to sue outright anyone.  The Templars to me, are the ones that in chivalry, I've sworn to defend as they are helpless.  All we can do is try to change opinion, and if not, at least point in the proper direction.  For example, "The New Knighthood" by Malcolm Barber is an excellent example to direct people too.  Amazing read.

If you can find it, get the complete version of Arn. The cut-down international version is pretty phenomenal by itself, but the entire thing fills in so many holes that the international cut left out.

That's a good point about the Templars. It's just like slandering a dead man—they aren't around to defend themselves. You can say whatever you want and people will believe it because they don't want to look into it for themselves.


But back to movies before I get too off topic.

There are still two movies that I'd particularly like to see that are a little more difficult to find. The War Lord with Charlton Heston and 2007's Mongol. I don't expect The War Lord to be terribly accurate considering it's a 1960s movie, but it looks interesting. I heard Mongol was pretty okay, but don't know much about it other than that it exists.

And for the record, I have seen The Conqueror with John Wayne. Let's just say that the Duke as Genghis Khan....yeah, no.

Yeah, that's one movie I am glad I didn't watch with the Duke in it lol I'm an avid western fan, and I sincerely believe that western, and modern war drama, is where the Duke belongs lol.

I've heard so much about the international vs the complete version that yep.  That's why I don't own it yet.  I always am a sucker and end up buying the "director's cut/10 minutes extra plus 4 hours of bonus" anyway, so when it comes to Arn.  I'm definitely thinking patience is a virtue and I'll get it when I can.

I'd like to add another movie to the list.  Another, completely historically inaccurate but what the heck it's a good flick I think!

the armor... yeah, it's atrocious lol
the acting... yeah, it's bad too
the script... predictable
but man is it a fun movie to watch!