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Re: My New COA
« Reply #15 on: 2010-09-24, 19:38:30 »
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Re: My New COA
« Reply #16 on: 2010-09-24, 19:43:54 »
WHOA! You might be onto something there Sir Edward! That looks great! I'll take three of them!
Can you have them ready before our October 16th invasion weekend?  ;)
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Vert, on a Chief wavy Argent a Rose Sable,
a Gryphon Segreant Or

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Re: My New COA
« Reply #17 on: 2010-09-24, 20:20:30 »
Haha, it's hard enough to find time to sew my own. :)

The interesting thing is that I'm not sure if what I did is correct. Technically, the green is in dexter, I think, because the chief sits over it (in terms of layering) and it's the only color in the base division of the shield. However, if you called it "Per Fess, Argent and Vert", the white would be in dexter. Really, the only visible difference is where the color separation is. Right across the middle it's really Per Fess, whereas close to the top, it's a Chief over a single-color field. But I'm just not sure in the case of the chief as to which color is suppose to come "first".

EDIT: as an aside, this is cool: http://heraldry.sca.org/primer/variants.html  ... I forgot all about fimbriation and voiding and all that.
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Re: My New COA
« Reply #18 on: 2010-09-24, 21:33:22 »
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So with my paltry attempt of blazonry I came up with this:

Vert, a gryphon or segreant. On a chief wavy argent, a rose sable.


Ok the blazon program confirmed my blazonry skills are sadly lacking! The program blazoned my new COA as follows:  :-[

Vert, on a Chief wavy Argent, a rose Sable, a Gryphon Segreant Or
"Chivalry our Strength, Brotherhood our sword"
Vert, on a Chief wavy Argent a Rose Sable,
a Gryphon Segreant Or

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Re: My New COA
« Reply #19 on: 2010-09-25, 00:34:27 »
The black rose on the white field (argent-silver) would have actually been more realistic, and authentic.
I like the wave too, SHARP!  ;D

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Re: My New COA
« Reply #20 on: 2010-09-25, 15:24:20 »
OK, let's look at this:
 

Ok, I’ve been searching the net for several hours and have seen many variations of surcoats/jupons with some of them being quite elaborate ~ the best known example being the black prince’s jupon complete with his cadency label. Therefore I think I will attempt to portray the wavy chief of my new COA on my new surcoat. Wish me luck! (omg what am I getting myself into?!? :D)
"Chivalry our Strength, Brotherhood our sword"
Vert, on a Chief wavy Argent a Rose Sable,
a Gryphon Segreant Or

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Re: My New COA
« Reply #21 on: 2010-09-27, 01:14:58 »

Ok, I’ve been searching the net for several hours and have seen many variations of surcoats/jupons with some of them being quite elaborate ~ the best known example being the black prince’s jupon complete with his cadency label. Therefore I think I will attempt to portray the wavy chief of my new COA on my new surcoat. Wish me luck! (omg what am I getting myself into?!? :D)


Wow, good luck! I can only do straight lines. :)
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Re: My New COA
« Reply #22 on: 2010-09-27, 07:24:29 »
I think I'll try and do it as an appliqué instead of sweating on getting two separate pieces of fabric to adjoin correctly, even then it is still going to be a squiggly line PITA! (yes pita is an acronym!)  ;)
"Chivalry our Strength, Brotherhood our sword"
Vert, on a Chief wavy Argent a Rose Sable,
a Gryphon Segreant Or

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Re: My New COA
« Reply #23 on: 2010-09-27, 15:43:44 »
Can't wait to see the finished product!
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Re: My New COA
« Reply #24 on: 2010-09-27, 19:09:16 »
uh oh! I was afraid I'd find something like this!
http://www.jrbsilks.com/product_info.php?pName=apple-green&cName=dupioni-solids&osCsid=bf38e64aacb9acb00dd42e6930bcb52a
WHY does the best shade of green have to come only in silk?

*sigh* This is going to be an expensive surcoat!  :-\
"Chivalry our Strength, Brotherhood our sword"
Vert, on a Chief wavy Argent a Rose Sable,
a Gryphon Segreant Or

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Re: My New COA
« Reply #25 on: 2010-09-27, 19:40:21 »
Traditionally speaking, weren't knightly surcoats made of silk?
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Re: My New COA
« Reply #26 on: 2010-09-27, 19:48:44 »
Well yes the more successful knights had them. I was mainly concerned with the durability of the silk, so
I decided I’ll make the surcoat with a heavy weight linen (7.1 oz) liner for the silk.  ;)
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a Gryphon Segreant Or

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Re: My New COA
« Reply #27 on: 2010-09-27, 20:53:05 »
Silk's pretty tough tho, or I thought it would be.  Either way, its gonna be fantastic...I'm not quite there yet with the complex heraldry having just gotten the Crusader itch calmed down in the blood.  ;)
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Re: My New COA
« Reply #28 on: 2010-09-27, 21:38:09 »
Well you could always develop your COA, you know the ones you put aside before you took up the cross and vows of a Templar!  ;)
"Chivalry our Strength, Brotherhood our sword"
Vert, on a Chief wavy Argent a Rose Sable,
a Gryphon Segreant Or

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Re: My New COA
« Reply #29 on: 2010-09-28, 00:43:41 »
I like the new surcoat Sir Brian!. I think that I would put a heavy linen or canvas backing on the silk too. It should help with the wear on the silk. Silk is pretty durable but unfortunately from my experience is subject to snags and runs, which a liner should help prevent the armor from doing. I look forward to seeing the finished product in person.