Ed's Mid 14th C. kit

[Sir Wolf]

awwwwwwwwssommmmmmmmmeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cant wait to see it!!!!!!!! sweet!!!!!!!!

now, onto ordering the COP. come on..... Kat won't know! just wear your surcoat over it, she'll never even read these msgs hehhehe. how does she know you don't already have one hehehe

[Sir Brian]

*bump resurrection*

So what pray tell has become of this kit? 

EDIT: ... dang it, now you have me thinking about this again. And wondering if I can get it together in 2 weeks for the knighting... lol... Stainless is affordable.

Anyway, I made my decision. I'll forgo the titanium. The GDFB stuff has more appropriate sizing for me anyway, and the stainless isn't oppressively heavy. I should have it next week!

Cool!


*OMG Sir Wolf I’m starting to understand why you do what you do! … It is SOOO much fun! Mmuuhaahahaha!* 

[Sir John of Felsenbau]

I'm still trying to get the hang of these various message boards...don't know which one to use. I'm new and hopefully my coat of arms will be listed soon...Also wanted to mention that I finally finished the helmet, shield, surcoat and pendant of Sir William Marshal...when I get a chance, I'll take a picture and post it.

[Sir Wolf]

do it man! we've been wondering where you where this past week

[Sir Edward]

*OMG Sir Wolf I’m starting to understand why you do what you do! … It is SOOO much fun! Mmuuhaahahaha!* 

Isn't it? Sir Wolf and I have been very good at spending each other's money over the years this way... lol.

Updates:  Supposedly I'll get the riveted mail by wednesday. I also handed off some fabric to Marie, toward making the jupon/surcoat for this. But I'll probably still make a simpler one to use in the meantime before she makes it.

I'm still not sure what I'm going to do about the helmet. I'll probably play with that MRL bascinet/aventail thing I have and see if I can get it to cooperate with my glasses a little better. But I'm also tempted to look into one of the klappvisors from GDFB. So we'll see. I'll have to decide on some gauntlets at some point too.

[Sir Wolf]

*OMG Sir Wolf I’m starting to understand why you do what you do! … It is SOOO much fun! Mmuuhaahahaha!* 

Isn't it? Sir Wolf and I have been very good at spending each other's money over the years this way... lol.

Updates:  Supposedly I'll get the riveted mail by wednesday. I also handed off some fabric to Marie, toward making the jupon/surcoat for this. But I'll probably still make a simpler one to use in the meantime before she makes it.

I'm still not sure what I'm going to do about the helmet. I'll probably play with that MRL bascinet/aventail thing I have and see if I can get it to cooperate with my glasses a little better. But I'm also tempted to look into one of the klappvisors from GDFB. So we'll see. I'll have to decide on some gauntlets at some point too.

boy have we!!!

[Sir Edward]

I think I'm going to want to go with hourglass gauntlets for this kit, after some thought. I see armstreet is selling some on ebay. These look pretty cool. Thoughts?

(sca, gauntlets)
http://cgi.ebay.com/FINGER-GAUNTLETS-HOURGLASSES-GLOVES-MEDIEVAL-ARMOR-SCA-/230590426465?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b042ad61

However they look cheaper on the website:

http://armstreet.com/store/armor/finger-gauntlets-hourglasses-gloves-medieval-armor-sca

[Sir Brian]

They look good however I must caution you about Armstreet products which Sir Andrew can verify! Although they will be solidly constructed and look good there will be some noticeable unfinished aspects that you'll have to take care of. Chief among them will be some seriously deadly burrs. You may find the strapping substandard as well, at least Sir Andrew was not satisfied with his on the armor he purchased from them. Oh and there will be a little bit of a delay in getting them because they are in the Ukraine and you'll pay an outrageous price for the shipping. Otherwise they are a fantastic company that have some really ingenious methods of making armor but I shop them with a slightly jaundiced eye. 

[Sir James A]

It's a shame ArmorAndCastings isn't taking armor orders for a while. They had some nice offerings at good prices, based on the pictures and description at least.

I don't normally recommend an overseas armorer, due to the differences in primary languages and confusing terms in armoring and measurements, but with gauntlets, you're probably just providing a tracing of your hand and wrist circumference. If I order from someone overseas (and not in Europe), it would definitely be Marek. Here's his gauntlet selection:

http://www.armorymarek.com/gauntlets

G11, G14, G16 and G31 are hourglass style gauntlets, but you could easily spend 10 or 15 minutes drooling over the whole page. G24 is one of my favorites.

He doesn't list prices on the site but they are reasonable in comparison to other handmade offerings that are made specifically to your measurements (i.e., not GDFB). I have a price list from him that is about a year old that I can send you, or you could contact him and he'll send you the current prices for everything on his site. He doesn't work in stainless, and when I asked about the type of steel (mild, spring, other) his response was "1.5mm iron" - which I gather to be mild steel, especially based on the price. He usually takes a few days to respond, but has always replied the couple times I asked questions. If I can sell my other car, I will be getting some drooly bits from him.

[Sir Edward]

Well, I think I'll put the gaunts off a little longer. I don't want to pick up another pair of gaunts hastily, since at $350-$600 a pop, it gets expensive if you get into the "ooh, I like those better" thing after you make a purchase. I do have a pair of really crappy hourglass gaunts I can use in the meantime.

The haubergeon should be here today. And I spent the evening last night making a really simple jupon/surcoat to wear over it (though it probably needs some more adjusting to fit right).

Progress.

[Sir Edward]

OK, here's the scoop. I still have a lot of work to do, but I managed to put things on tonight. Wow, it's a lot of work to do by yourself, with all the straps and points being hard to reach.  (as an aside, it's also interesting editing photos and posting this message while still wearing it all!)

I didn't bother with boots. I was just spending the time getting things on, adding new holes in the straps, testing out pointing locations, attaching the besegews, etc.

I still need to taper the sleeves, add splits at the bottom, etc. The surcoat is thrown together really quickly and fits a little funny. I also didn't have it on straight. Hard to do when you put it on AFTER the arms and spaulders.

The lighting sucked, so forgive the graininess. I had to brighten these considerably.

     

[Sir Brian]

Hey that is looking really great! You are a lot closer to being done than not done IMO!

[SirNathanQ]

LOVE the maille!!!!!!

BTW, does a COPs get as hot as a cuirass? Because I've been often foregoing the cuirass so that I don't sweat to death.
JW?
BTW, thanks for a link to a COP place that looks nice and isn't above $1000!

[Sir Wolf]

wow awesome, and that is just that i can actually see carpet hahaha what a huge bare spot on the floor! hehehe jkjkjkj
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that kit rocks dude. do not split the bottom. most effigies show a straight hem line on mail in the 14thc. wow it just looks great dude.

about the surcoat, are you gonna have it waft in at the waist? this is done by having from the waist to teh armpits open and then they are tied together so it is tight against teh wearer. other wise you can't get the bloody thing on over the armour hehehe.

also, don't forget to wear your belt lower around the hips. its all the rage in 14thc

what about greaves? gotta have those. cased greaves are all the rage in mid to late 14th.

[Sir Wolf]

in this picture. what is with the white diamond in the middle of your chest/belly under the mail? heheheh snicker