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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #15 on: 2013-06-11, 15:52:03 »
Polaxes would have to be part of the harnessfechten. They're just too dangerous to use unarmored. We would have to invest in several more rubber-headed trainers for that too.

But yeah, expanding the weapon selection is always a good thing. We could do some arming sword, buckler, messer, spear. The Liechtenauer system includes those.
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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #16 on: 2013-06-11, 15:59:11 »
what if, IF, you do a different section for each part of the day? start out smaller stuff and build to the final full armoured combat at the end of the day?
10am have the steel combat unarmoured like what i saw 2 weeks ago
1pm heavier combat with wasters and bucklers
4pm everyone full armoured with polearms etc. team battle royale?

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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #17 on: 2013-06-11, 16:32:54 »
Polaxes would have to be part of the harnessfechten. They're just too dangerous to use unarmored. We would have to invest in several more rubber-headed trainers for that too.

Well yes most definitely! Otherwise we would only be able to do ONE show! ;)

But yeah, expanding the weapon selection is always a good thing. We could do some arming sword, buckler, messer, spear. The Liechtenauer system includes those.

Precisely, we could even go as small as daggers.

what if, IF, you do a different section for each part of the day? start out smaller stuff and build to the final full armoured combat at the end of the day?
10am have the steel combat unarmoured like what i saw 2 weeks ago
1pm heavier combat with wasters and bucklers
4pm everyone full armoured with polearms etc. team battle royale?

Yes! This would be the general gist of what we could do. We would of course have to revise and shorten our introduction and lecture portions to where we could have time for two or more different weapon duels. Perhaps start with a dagger then go to a longsword, then the second show include arming swords and bucklers, etc.  :)
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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #18 on: 2013-06-11, 17:06:46 »
Arming swords and bucklers- quick, someone give me a towel, I'm overcome with drool!  :)
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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #19 on: 2013-06-11, 17:43:11 »
We kicked around the idea a bit at one of the rehearsals, doing longsword for the final show, and sabre/messer or rapier/buckler/etc for earlier shows. Sir Nathan and I kicked around the poleaxe idea too, but lack of time and funds to get some suitable ones to use and practice with beforehand shot it down for this year.

Only downside to the harnessfechten is the damage. My breastplate has a bunch of nicks in the center ridge from being hit with the steel, and I've got 3 dents I found in the helmet I need to take out so far - and one is at the edge of the visor and I'm not sure if I can repair it. I haven't even looked at the rest of the armor yet, due to the soggy tent. :(

Maybe I just need some nice heat treated carbon steel? :D

Edit: We also might want to consider making the mid-day show the "longer" show if we can get it without anyone following us - the crowd seems considerably larger for those compared to end of the day.
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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #20 on: 2013-06-11, 19:46:09 »
Hammers!!! YES!!!! :)
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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #21 on: 2013-06-11, 22:25:12 »
maces at noon it is!

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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #22 on: 2013-06-11, 22:26:01 »


Only downside to the harnessfechten is the damage. My breastplate has a bunch of nicks in the center ridge from being hit with the steel, and I've got 3 dents I found in the helmet I need to take out so far - and one is at the edge of the visor and I'm not sure if I can repair it. I haven't even looked at the rest of the armor yet, due to the soggy tent. :(



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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #23 on: 2013-06-11, 22:59:44 »
LOL. I should show you my helm. Ripped aventail, dented helm, dented & torn kit.
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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #24 on: 2013-06-12, 02:43:21 »
I lie the idea.  :)
Mixed weapons with harnessfechten, and maybe an armoured grand melee for the last show! Oh happy day!  ;D
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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #25 on: 2013-06-12, 05:05:40 »
Darn it. I want to hammer somebody.  :(
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Re: Order of the Marshal VARF Demo
« Reply #26 on: 2013-06-12, 10:11:24 »
Man!  You guys make your renfairs way more awesome than any of ours here, even though some are the "originals!"  I may have to talk to my group about setting up demos at the phoenix fair next year.  Hearing all these posts just makes me want to hop a plane and visit.  And I HATE flying, like BA in A-Team, HATE flying!   ;D
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