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Soft Kit for DoK
« on: 2012-09-15, 23:53:50 »
Got some last minute stuff in from HE.  Here's a quick shot of one iteration of the soft kit.  Everything you see here is wool, and surprisingly comfortable.  I'm looking for any obvious glaring errors that I need to fix prior to DoK if anyone has anything.  The one thing that irks me that I can't help is that the fit of the chausses are a little loose.  I've got to get one size too big because my feet won't fit in the next size down, even though they would be more fitted to the leg.

Also, does anyone have a trick to making a livery collar not fall out of place any time you lean in any direction?  :D

For clarity's sake:  Mid to Late 14th Century England.
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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #1 on: 2012-09-16, 05:36:42 »
Safety pins to the shirt from underneath so not noticed should do it. Nice look, Ian. Very sharp & historical. I don't know why people like the rondel daggers. Guess it's just preference. 
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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #2 on: 2012-09-16, 08:33:52 »
Nice, maybe I should pick up a tunic by them. What one did you pick out? Cause I dont want one thats too long as I am not exactly tall.

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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #3 on: 2012-09-16, 12:24:40 »

Looking good! I agree, some hidden safety pins might help with keeping things in place. I think the kit is really looking good, so I'm not sure what you might want to add to it.

Man, I need to finish mine. :)

I took a photo with what I had when some of it arrived. I've since switched the tunic for the next size up for a better fit, and added a wool lyrapipe hood with dags as an alternate choice to the linen hood shown:

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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #4 on: 2012-09-16, 12:37:00 »
put the chausis on inside out, mark where they are too large with a piece of chalk, pin the new line and sew it. turn them right side out and try them. then turn them wrong side out again and cut off the excess. make sure you dont make them too tight in the ankles and knees.

ya just use hidden safety pins. only u will know. or mark where you want it to sit and put a few cheater stitches with the same color thread as the mantle. and sew it in place

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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #5 on: 2012-09-16, 13:16:48 »
put the chausis on inside out, mark where they are too large with a piece of chalk, pin the new line and sew it. turn them right side out and try them. then turn them wrong side out again and cut off the excess. make sure you dont make them too tight in the ankles and knees.

ya just use hidden safety pins. only u will know. or mark where you want it to sit and put a few cheater stitches with the same color thread as the mantle. and sew it in place

Awesome idea for the chausses Sir Wolf, thank you!

Nice, maybe I should pick up a tunic by them. What one did you pick out? Cause I dont want one thats too long as I am not exactly tall.

It's the Bocksten tunic in wool, the 'one size' option. I'm about 5'10" and thin, and it fits fairly well, much better than my revival linen.

Safety pins to the shirt from underneath so not noticed should do it. Nice look, Ian. Very sharp & historical. I don't know why people like the rondel daggers. Guess it's just preference. 

Thanks, as far as the rondel, it's one of the most documented daggers appropriate for my little niche in the timeline, I probably could have done a ballock dagger as well, but rondels look nice and mean to me :)

Thanks for the feedback gentlemen!
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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #6 on: 2012-09-16, 13:26:11 »
Very Dapper gentlemen.
Don`t forget your head wear, it wasn`t the done thing for men of rank to be seen outdoors without head covering  ;) A nice Chaperon would go great.
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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #7 on: 2012-09-16, 13:32:20 »
Very Dapper gentlemen.
Don`t forget your head wear, it wasn`t the done thing for men of rank to be seen outdoors without head covering  ;) A nice Chaperon would go great.
http://www.kats-hats.co.uk/chaperon.shtml
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Excellent Sir Gerard, thank you!

Are simple linen coifs not appropriate for men of station?  What about underneath something fancier like a wool brimmed hat?
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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #8 on: 2012-09-16, 13:40:12 »
Yes I`m sure that would do just fine  ;)
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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #9 on: 2012-09-16, 13:48:25 »
Yes I`m sure that would do just fine  ;)
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Great!  I ask, only because I have the stuff I described on hand! :)
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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #10 on: 2012-09-16, 23:04:06 »
put the chausis on inside out, mark where they are too large with a piece of chalk, pin the new line and sew it. turn them right side out and try them. then turn them wrong side out again and cut off the excess. make sure you dont make them too tight in the ankles and knees.

ya just use hidden safety pins. only u will know. or mark where you want it to sit and put a few cheater stitches with the same color thread as the mantle. and sew it in place

Sir Wolf, I did the procedure you suggested for the chausses (well, for the sake of total transparency, my wife did it :) ) and it worked like a charm.  Took about 5 total minutes, and they fit much better now.  Thank you for the suggestion!
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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #11 on: 2012-09-17, 01:21:01 »
awesome. thats how i do it. use the generic patterns and then tailor it to fit. glad to be of service!

oh ya don't forget your hats! you must must wear a hat in medieval attire. it's forbidden heheh not to

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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #12 on: 2012-09-17, 19:50:19 »
I ordered the anglo saxon tunic with a hood, should fit in for my 13th century impression. I dont think i'm tall enough for the gown type tunic so I got the anglo saxon one instead, in copper and black and I got the hood in copper. Should work for me for this soft kit.

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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #13 on: 2012-09-17, 20:53:07 »
That looks great to me!
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Re: Soft Kit for DoK
« Reply #14 on: 2012-09-20, 18:32:53 »


My stuff arrived, not sure if it fits well enough color wise but I went with copper because it matched the hood I got. Wool is itchy though, prefer linen but wearing the linen undershirt sorta solves the itchy problem.