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Main => The Courtyard => Topic started by: Sir Brian on 2011-06-19, 21:12:20
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Anyone handle one of these or seen any reviews on them?
(http://therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c1274a.jpg)
http://therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c1274.html (http://therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c1274.html)
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http://kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SH2250N same sword?
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http://kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SH2428 no here it is much cheaper
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Huh, it looks like a blunt version of their "bastard sword". I'm curious how it handles too.
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I can tell you...it is rather flexible; I thought it'd be more rigid, and the edge is quite thick but no, it flexes quite a bit. I won't go so far as to call it 'floppy' but it does exhibit quite a bit of flex in motion but it is also pretty handy, having a PoB at or around 3.5-4" from the cross. I actually traded mine as part of a venture for that scabbard made for me by Slayer...that and some cash.
It is solidly built, rough peen on the pommel, wood grip with the basic leather wrap; plastic scabbard wrapped in leather which seems to suit it well. I liked it, but wasn't in love w/it- at that price tho, you can hardly go wrong.
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Ah thanks for the insight Sir William! I was kicking around the idea of getting one of them if my hopes and plans fall through about getting an Albion Meyer in the couple of months, although I haven't ruled out an A&A Fechterspiel if I can find someone who has one and is willing to let me handle it. :-\
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Actually you did get to see my A&A fechterspiel down at VARF. That was the other sword I had with the Albion Meyer.
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Doh! That's right I did and thought it was a bit blade heavy! Woohoo I can conclusively say I want the Albion Meyer! Thanks for reminding me Sir Edward! :)
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If I ever buy a two-hander I want the Albion Duke which is like this one here (http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=ANH13&name=Albion+Steward+Medieval+War+Sword). :)
But for a working blunt I'm looking at the Hanwei Tinker 9th Century Viking Sword - Blunt (http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SH2409&name=Hanwei+Tinker+9th+Century+Viking+Sword+-+Blunt)
-Ivan
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Yeah that's a beauty at a sweet price to! I like the Tinker blunts. I have the longsword and its handles exceptionally well. :)
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Sir Edward, which sword did you knight us with? I was asked on another forum and couldn't remember...was it the Landgraf?
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Yep, that's the one!
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Ah ha, thought it was but wasn't ultimately sure...thanks for that! So, you will go with the Meyer, Sir Brian? I have to go back and look for it...I recall the name but do not recall what it looks like (other than the obvious sword characteristics). :)
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Yes the Meyer is shall be, now if what my wife wants to get doesn't cost too much I'll hopefully have enough left over from my performance bonus to buy one! ;)
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Take lots of pics if you do! My wife wanted to go to California and visit a vineyard...check and check! And I got some new armor in...not pic-ready just yet. Still need a leather punch...wouldn't you know it, I cannot find a hardware store in my immediate vicinity...and by that I mean I haven't noticed one driving around. lol
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why not just use a drill bit? usually anywhere from 1/8th to 3/16th will do
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Yes the Meyer is shall be, now if what my wife wants to get doesn't cost too much I'll hopefully have enough left over from my performance bonus to buy one! ;)
Good choice. I've been using mine for half a decade now, and it gets used minimum 5 days a week (often times more) and going strong. It's taken a minor set from thrusting, and the cord wrap in one small section has gotten very slightly loose, but all in all it is still about as servicable as the day I received it.
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Wolf, I would if I had a drill!!! I know, who doesn't have one...I still use manual screwdrivers.
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WHAT? even Sir Edward has a drill!
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I guess I'm the throw-back then...generally speaking, I don't use powered tools. I probably should start though...would make my life easier.
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Yes the Meyer is shall be, now if what my wife wants to get doesn't cost too much I'll hopefully have enough left over from my performance bonus to buy one! ;)
Good choice. I've been using mine for half a decade now, and it gets used minimum 5 days a week (often times more) and going strong. It's taken a minor set from thrusting, and the cord wrap in one small section has gotten very slightly loose, but all in all it is still about as servicable as the day I received it.
Well I put my first Albion on order today. I will be the proud owner of my new Meyer in 8 – 12 weeks which means I should get it in time for the Triangle European Martial Arts Conclave! ;D
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Well I put my first Albion on order today. I will be the proud owner of my new Meyer in 8 – 12 weeks which means I should get it in time for the Triangle European Martial Arts Conclave! ;D
Excellent! I think you'll love it. :)
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A costly habit, those Albions. lol
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woohoo!! way to go Sir Brian!
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Lucky!!!! :)
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Well I put my first Albion on order today.
I like this word, "first". That means there will be more. ;)
Congratulations, Sir Brian!
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lol,
My apologies! It was either a typographical error or a Freudian slip, I mean really does a person need more than one Albion? ;)
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its a disease, ask sir edward
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A disease? What's it called Albionism? :D
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I mean really does a person need more than one Albion? ;)
Did you really mean for us to take this question seriously? ;)
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Yes, it's a sickness. You can never have too many Albions. That's how it begins... you only need one. Then you find another one you like just as much, in a completely different way. Then you realize that the ones you have a great cutters, but you don't have a good harnessfechten thruster. And so on... :)
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Yes, and the disease is compounded by all of the beauties they hold in their catalog...you could start by wanting one from specific eras, then you'll find that you'll want one from each of the Oakeshott typologies- that is what I am currently struggling with. LOL
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... and then you decide you want a sharp and a blunt of similar characteristics...
... and then you move on to scabbards. :)
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Pity I only have one extra kidney to sell in order to buy them all...unless I can convince others to sell one of their kidneys to help feed my addiction! ;D
So which Albion is considered the best at kidney extraction? ;)
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For me, it is a no-brainer- the Knight. It is their pound-for-pound champ in my book. That or the Kingmaker...now the Knight's a type XII, your archetypal knightly sword and the Kingmaker's a type XVIII- my two favorite typologies of them all.
But you, being a rather large and imposing knight, might prefer one of their bastard swords...in which case I have only ever loved two...the Crecy and the Duke. Between the two, the Crecy is the finesse blade, the Duke is the tank. At least...that was my impression.
You might also consider their Squire Line swords...I'm interested in the 15thC bastard and the 13thC knightly...at about 60% of the price of their Signature Line, definitely worth taking a look at.
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The Baron is their other tank. I love that sword, as it's beefy and it's a mean cutter, but it's not my favorite of the ones I have.
Amongst the longswords, The Landgraf is one of my favorites. The Talhoffer is a great thruster for harnessfechten stuff, with a great feel. With the single-handers, the Knight is excellent (and cuts well). But the Chevalier is very pretty and feels great in the hand.
The Crecy is an excellent "jack of all trades", and I'm glad I have it, but it's also nice to have others that are more optimized for various roles. But it's also a good cutter for learning good cutting technique, so when I start cutting again, I'll probably start with that one.
I don't have it (Bill does), but that Count is surprisingly nice in the hand. I'd be tempted to get one.
But one of my favorite longswords that I don't have is the Munich. Oh man, now that is a nice sword. The only reason I don't have it, is that I already have the very similar CF/Atrim Bayersiches sword.
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For my part, I'm going with a Lundemo custom for my next big sword purchase...I'm going to design it and have him realize it in steel (and leather and wood). His prices are very comparable to Albion's...and he's such an easy going guy; been dying for one of his swords for years. It wasn't until last year that I found out his pricing was such...had I known, I'd have had one of his creations at my hip instead of the ARN. Not that I'm complaining, I love that sword.
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Speaking of Albions, the Castellan, Count, Steward, Constable, Mercenary, and Crecy are on my list of Swords to order. One disappointment that I found out if that swords such as the Talhoffer, Ringeck, Fiore, Earl, Sempach, Agincourt and Landgraf would be too big for me (the swords are in the range of 48' to 45'. This also comes from my instructor's input on which Albions to purchase that would be a hindrance since I stand at 5'1)
But on the bright side, this would make it easier to create a 14th Century Persona with either a Count or Steward (War Sword Lover!) Or a Late 15th - Early 16th Century Persona using the Bastard (Hand and a Half) Swords with superb ease! (As you can see, it is alot more fun when you can create two Personas along with two Kits!)
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some of the A&A swords would fit you better then. such as the henry 5th which is just awesome!
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Sir Joshua, Sir Wolf has a point...the A&A Henry V sword is a short type XVIII, diamond cross section, hollow ground to reduce weight (the earliest Henry V's were not hollow ground, resulting in a slightly heavier, and more forward blade presence) and I believe it is less than 33" in overall length, with a 26" blade? Wolf can elaborate on it probably.
At your height, the sword will not only suit your stroke, but would also look appropo at your side.
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The museum piece they modeled it after was actually hollow-ground, but it's true that not all swords of this type are. With the diamond cross-section it has a very light and agile feel. Even more-so with the hollow-ground blade.
I have the hollow-ground version and I love it. :)
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On another forum I'm a member of, saw a sweet Atrim shorty that Lee's Armoury used to stock...DD1403c; there were three, DD1403a was a two-handed longsword, DD1403b was a bastard and the 1403c which was the shortie. One of the forumites picked it up years ago and personalized it...been tryin to talk him into selling it as it is a long discontinued model. LOL
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some of the A&A swords would fit you better then. such as the henry 5th which is just awesome!
Of course Sir Wolf!
A&A Henry V sword is a short type XVIII, diamond cross section, hollow ground to reduce weight (the earliest Henry V's were not hollow ground, resulting in a slightly heavier, and more forward blade presence) and I believe it is less than 33" in overall length, with a 26" blade? Wolf can elaborate on it probably.
At your height, the sword will not only suit your stroke, but would also look appropo at your side.
That is exactly why it would work for me and expect me weliding it in a future production of Shakespeare's Henry V shouting on a horse "Once more unto the breach dear friends! Once more! Or close up the wall with our English dead!"
The museum piece they modeled it after was actually hollow-ground, but it's true that not all swords of this type are. With the diamond cross-section it has a very light and agile feel. Even more-so with the hollow-ground blade.
I have the hollow-ground version and I love it.
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It does look that Arming swords from Albion would work fine as well as the A&A English Longsword!