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Miscellaneous => The Market Square => Topic started by: Sir Edward on 2011-12-12, 15:15:07
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I've been exchanging some messages with Allan about the idea of ordering a heater shield from him. I had admired the one Sir Brian ordered, and never got the opportunity to order one myself. In order for it to be worth Allan's time/money, we'd need to order 3 or 4 of them. I'm checking with him on the price, but I think they were very affordable as I recall.
Anyone else interested?
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These shields are really fantastic guys if you want a heater shield that is built to last and look great. :)
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From Allan:
Late heater $160.00, early heater $190.00, Anglo-Saxon/Viking round shield $250.00, teardrop w/ boss $250.00, teardrop/no boss $210.00. Those are all less than we used to sell them for.
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I don't recall the sizing...which is larger, early or late heater? Either way, I'm game...I'd rather get one from him than the one I was contemplating. Sir Brian, any pics of the one you have?
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I can post some pics this afternoon along with some measurements. :)
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I can post some pics this afternoon along with some measurements. :)
Please do. :) I'd be in for one around 24" x 36", heater style.
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Allan sent me this link. They're on the 6th row:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1062941212677.2010088.1200387794&type=1&l=baf6ae7b84 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1062941212677.2010088.1200387794&type=1&l=baf6ae7b84)
I think the early heater is the larger (taller) one.
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I believe I have the later heater which is 24" X 24" and as promised here are the pictures! ;)
I included both front and back so you can see the excellent strapping Allan does.
:)
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Brian, did he paint your charges as well? Just wondering. I'd be in for one of the larger ones then...especially with that strapping, its excellently done.
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No Sir William I had a friend paint the green and white and I did the charges with a stencil I purchased and one I purchased and modified. :)
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I'll ask him how large the early heater is. I'd like to know before we place an order.
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Ok, sounds good. Will this order be going in before or after Christmas?
Sir Brian, you did a marvelous job then...I thought it was professionally done. By that I do not mean I think you're a slouch...only that I know I am. ;)
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Whenever we're all ready. I can do it any time.
Of course, now I'm torn between the early and late heaters. Early probably fits my period more correctly, but still.. :)
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Well not to add too much to your temptation but you might want to seriously consider getting one of each since you have a 14th Century harness as well and there is no telling when you'll get another opportunity to purchase a shield designed with such authenticity. ;)
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Don't think I haven't thought about that. :)
BTW, Allan says the Early is about 24" x 30".
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That sounds about right...and the dimensions of the later one are 22" by 25" right? Hmmm...I'm in the process of building a 14th C kit...
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My later one is 24" X 24". :)
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Hey, close enough, good Sir!
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I'm in for an early. Post-Christmas would be better for me, from a money standpoint.
Sir Brian, it came with the guige strap and everything?
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OK cool, let me know when you guys are ready.
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I'm in for an early. Post-Christmas would be better for me, from a money standpoint.
Sir Brian, it came with the guige strap and everything?
Yes, just as the pictures I posted (minus the paint of course! ;) )
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That'd work for me as well, post-Christmas.
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Awesome. I am definitely in for an early period heater!
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This is tempting, shield I currently have is falling apart for like no reason.
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This is tempting, shield I currently have is falling apart for like no reason.
It's not an opportunity that happens often. Or even rarely. Allan closed up shop, so these shields would be more of a personal favor to us than just "ordering" something. :)
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As long as it's post christmas I am in. I sorta would go for early heater shield. I just need to know whats the rough weight on these. Are they heavier than the one I got currently?
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Damn Brian you did a nice job painting yours! The wife used to do all the custom painting for us, but what you did is exactly what she did, make a stencile, trace it over the leather which will leave an indentation to follow when you paint and as long as you have a somewhat steady hand ( or aren't averse to the occasional touch up ) your off to the races. Well done. These http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1063974438507.2010250.1200387794&type=1&l=7cd4bd04f0 (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1063974438507.2010250.1200387794&type=1&l=7cd4bd04f0) were just a few that the wife did ( the bottom row right hand one is actually the emblem of St. Andrews College and we don't have a pic of the one she did for a fella who wanted the emblem for SACNORAD ).
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Thanks Allan, but your wife's work was far superior since she used the stencil as just a guide for her free hand brushing while I only touched up after a heavy stencil brush. ;)
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As long as it's post christmas I am in. I sorta would go for early heater shield. I just need to know whats the rough weight on these. Are they heavier than the one I got currently?
You'll want to be in on this. Allan's shields are actually better than the ones you and I have...he covers the face in leather! Plus, w/MT being out of business, this really IS a special occasion.
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I'll have to see if I can scrape together enough cash to get in on this. I would love a heater like this to go with my mid-14th century kit when I finally get it together.
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I know folks wanted to get past the holidays for a potential group order of shields. Well, we've definitely let some time pass. Who is still interested?
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I'm still interested!!!
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Still in!
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Actually, can you guys chime in with which models you're interested in? To recap, here's what Allan quoted us:
Late heater $160.00, early heater $190.00, Anglo-Saxon/Viking round shield $250.00, teardrop w/ boss $250.00, teardrop/no boss $210.00. Those are all less than we used to sell them for.
I'm in for possibly a late heater and an early heater, but I need to decide that. I'm getting at least one.
The other question then becomes (and this may be a question for Allan), how would be the best way to handle this, in terms of shipping? I'd be OK with having them shipped to me, and I can hand them off to people as opportunities arise, if it'll save on shipping costs.
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sorry, i'll have to pass :( look great though.
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Actually, can you guys chime in with which models you're interested in? To recap, here's what Allan quoted us:
Late heater $160.00, early heater $190.00, Anglo-Saxon/Viking round shield $250.00, teardrop w/ boss $250.00, teardrop/no boss $210.00. Those are all less than we used to sell them for.
I'm in for possibly a late heater and an early heater, but I need to decide that. I'm getting at least one.
The other question then becomes (and this may be a question for Allan), how would be the best way to handle this, in terms of shipping? I'd be OK with having them shipped to me, and I can hand them off to people as opportunities arise, if it'll save on shipping costs.
Sir Edward, if you wouldn't mind taking that on, that would be great! Of us all, you're the one we're all likely to see at some point, being as you're the Knight Commander and all. I'm not volunteering you, mind you, just stating that I'd be in agreement, and hopefully we all would.
For me, I'll go with a late heater as I'm slowly moving into the 14thC which that shield should fit right in, no? 25" long x 22" wide or thereabouts, right?
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Actually, can you guys chime in with which models you're interested in? To recap, here's what Allan quoted us:
Late heater $160.00, early heater $190.00, Anglo-Saxon/Viking round shield $250.00, teardrop w/ boss $250.00, teardrop/no boss $210.00. Those are all less than we used to sell them for.
1 Early Heater, please
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I'm in for a late heater. I'm not sure if it would fit in a mid to late 14th Century kit or not, but I really like them.
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Certainly it would fit with a mid to late 14th! :)
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Sir Brian would know...he already has his. :)
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OK, I have people down for these:
Sir William: 1 late heater
Sir James: 1 early heater
Sir Matthew: 1 late heater
Sir Edward: 1 late heater
Anyone else want to jump in at the last minute?
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OK, I have people down for these:
Sir William: 1 late heater
Sir James: 1 early heater
Sir Matthew: 1 late heater
Sir Edward: 1 late heater
Anyone else want to jump in at the last minute?
Bueller? Bueller? :)
If no one else has anything to add, we can probably go ahead and get the ball rolling on this.
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What's the plan for collecting the money? Should we all send our payments to Sir Edward or individually to Allen? It might coordinate better if we have one person collect all our monies and then send it off to Allen.
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I was going to suggest everyone pay Allan, but I'm flexible. I'm waiting for him to get back to me after he does some math on materials, and see if we have enough shields in the group order.
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Hey all, Allan wrote back and it looks like we're ready to go. Do you all want to send me the money so I can pay him in one lump sum? Or would you rather all get in touch with him individually?
He's OK with either, and so am I. He's estimating something like $40-50 shipping each, but he said he can settle on that as they're finished. Since he doesn't have the materials yet, we need to pay up front so he can get them.
Let me know what you want to do.
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Hey all, Allan wrote back and it looks like we're ready to go. Do you all want to send me the money so I can pay him in one lump sum? Or would you rather all get in touch with him individually?
He's OK with either, and so am I. He's estimating something like $40-50 shipping each, but he said he can settle on that as they're finished. Since he doesn't have the materials yet, we need to pay up front so he can get them.
Let me know what you want to do.
Any chance of the "bulk shipping" of all of them at once? I'm not sure if that goes over the size limit. If it's possible to greyhound them (freight), that's a cheap way I've seen large stuff like car body panels shipped. I'm not sure if there's a station near Allan, but there is a greyhound pick-up down near my in-laws in Woodbridge and I can pick them up from there if needed.
I'll be the third "whatever is fine" guy on the payment. If everyone has a way to pay Allan directly, it's probably easier, rather than send it to Sir Edward and then to Allan, which paypal might get kerfluffled about - especially if we're sending to Sir Edward as a gift, otherwise we'd be eating 3% fee to send to Sir Edward, then 3% more to send it to Allan....
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It doesn't matter to me either. Right now paypal doesn't work for me, though. I spent about half an hour on the phone with them tonight without resolving it, we try again with a confernce call to my credit union on Thurs. or Sat., depending on when I get done with work Thurs. Hopefully I can resolve the issues then, if not I can send check/money order although given Allen's car issues maybe that doesn't work for him?
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Any chance of the "bulk shipping" of all of them at once? I'm not sure if that goes over the size limit.
I'll be using UPS and UPS ships simply put by weight and dimension and distance to be traveled. The heavier it is adds to cost, the bigger the box adds to cost, the farther it has to go the greater the cost, so its not going to reduce the price that USP charges. My suggested " anticipate cost " is based only of a rough conglomeration of past costs to ship board around the country. The address of the individual will have a great deal to do with it. Most of you being in VA the cost may come in lower at $28-30 but its better to be safe than sorry.
I can wait till they're all done to ship as a group but this will mean that folks who's shields are done will be waiting for a good bit while the custom painted boards if there are any are getting done. The painting process takes a bit as the paint goes on thick and each color coat needs to cure before another goes on to prevent " curdeling " ( the paint can literally bleed together and take on a swirling curdeled look like spoiled milk ). Thats your guys call to make.
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OK, so it's sounding like individual payment and individual shipping will just be the smoothest. I'm OK with that.
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No worries on the shipping, just tossing out an idea. I think it'd be best to ship them as their done, that way you can keep the shop clear, and we can get our grubby little mitten gauntlets on some awesome shields. :)
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No worries on the shipping, just tossing out an idea. I think it'd be best to ship them as their done, that way you can keep the shop clear, and we can get our grubby little mitten gauntlets on some awesome shields. :)
Loose translation:
Gimme gimme gimme! ;)
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My paypal is mercenarystailor@hotmail.com, or address for snail mail is :
Allan Senefelder
140 East Elm St.
East Rochester NY 14445
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I've sent mine over (let me know what the shipping comes out to when you know).
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You can cancel my order, guys. Something's come up that I can't get around or delay. Sorry Allan...was really looking forward to acquiring one of your shields.
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William, you have to do what you have to do. I've set Ed's money aside, if we lose one more, I will refund Ed's cash as there will not be enough money on two shields to cover the supplies much less have me work for free.
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I can add another one to the order if it's cutting too close. I was on the fence about maybe adding an early heater for myself as well (get it while I can!), so I'll be happy to send over some more cash for that.
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Allan, thanks. I'm glad that Edward's putting in another order...this is a great deal that I wish, I wish I could avail myself of.
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I have a call with paypal set up for tomorrow afternoon or Sat. morning to try to fix the issue with my credit union account. If that works and my paypal and credit union account link, I will paypal you the money this weekend. If not, I will get a check out to you Mon. morning Allen.
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I've sent over the second payment, so I'm in for both an early and a late heater.
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I've sent over the second payment, so I'm in for both an early and a late heater.
Awesome! I'm ready to send payment for mine, but cannot for the life of me find where Allan posted the price on painting.
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Awesome! I'm ready to send payment for mine, but cannot for the life of me find where Allan posted the price on painting.
Crap, yeah, that was in another thread. I'll look for it too.
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Awesome! I'm ready to send payment for mine, but cannot for the life of me find where Allan posted the price on painting.
Crap, yeah, that was in another thread. I'll look for it too.
Here it is:
James, the Mrs. said $125 for yours as she has the rampant lion tracing stecils she made for another one already, William she'd like $150.00 for yours.
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Thanks, I sent money Allan's way. I was searching on "misses" instead of "mrs". I also tried "paint" and "shield paint" without any luck. My search-fu needs more practice.
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I have Ed's second payment and James's. I will proceed as if its a three board order until Matt gets things straightened out. By this I mean, this money will clear Friday/Monday. I can start off buying two pieces of 1/8 inch plywood which will yield components for three shields to be glued ( each one takes about 24 hours to set, they must be trimmed, drilled and sanded and can have the fabric backing put on ). This will take most of a week ( this will be mostly evening work outside of the spectrum of outstanding commisions stuff ). I'm guessing Matt will have things settled either way by the end of next week and then i'll place the order for leather and get a third piece of 1/8 plywood as we'll have a definite count on the final number of boards. I just don't want to plunge in and start ordering based on a four board count without the final count in and end up running out of money because I pick up leather as if theres four ( an extra full side of facing leather ) or wood ( and extra 4'x8' piece of 1/8 inch plywood ) and run out of money if its less because the actual count ends up being three ( life happens, I think we pretty much all know that ) but the money for part of the leather is now tied up in a piece of plywood we no longer need. Disgretion is the better part of valor as the saying goes. Matt, let me know how things are progressing and i'll make arrangements to borrow my buddies box truck to make a lumber run Monday or Tuesday.
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Thank you so much for helping us out, my friend. I know it's hard to do small orders and not be stuck with left-over materials. I'm glad we were able to pull some folks together and actually do this.
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As am I, and I am really sorry I had to pull out of it, Allan.
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As am I, and I am really sorry I had to pull out of it, Allan.
hehe so hard not... too. comment... have.. to...
"thats what she said!"
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LOL
Been so long since I heard that, my instincts are slow...should've seen that one coming!
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I did not get a call today from Paypal, so I guess we'll see what happens Sat. Unfortunately I will be house sitting for my parents next week and will likely not be on the boards at all. If I don't get Paypal straightened out, a check will be in the mail to you Mon. Allen. There is really no hurry with my shield, though. Take whatever time you need to get the lumber and finish it. I definitely don't want you to hold up production of everyone else's shields, as it sounds like they are all anxiously awaiting their new toys ;)
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Take whatever time you need to get the lumber and finish it.
Well I had held out hopes to shave a little off the leather total by ordering all at once if there were in fact four rather than3 ( and entire extra side of facing leather if a fourth is added ) but i'll proceed as if there are three then.
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It's OK with me if you want to delay my shields to make the materials more efficient. Totally up to you. I'm not in a rush.
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Allan, how long of a delay? That might work for me.
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It's OK with me if you want to delay my shields to make the materials more efficient. Totally up to you. I'm not in a rush.
I'm okay with some delay too, whichever is easiest for you. I appreciate the favor that you're making them for us, so waiting is no problem.
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So I didn't get a call from Paypal again today so I will be sending a check or money order Monday. Sorry to have to do it this way, I know it's not the ideal way to handle this and it might be hard for Allen to get to the bank to deposit it with the current state of his ride, but until I can straighten out my paypal issues it's all I got. I've been fighting with paypal for two years about my credit union account not linking and so far all I've gotten is frustration. Both sides blame it on the other, all I care about is getting it fixed.
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I wonder if any of those prepaid MC/VISA cards might be the answer for your PayPal woes. You could always 'preload' the available balance on the card when you want to make a purchase. :-\
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I wonder if any of those prepaid MC/VISA cards might be the answer for your PayPal woes. You could always 'preload' the available balance on the card when you want to make a purchase. :-\
I can't even use those, because I have reached my "sending limit" without a verified and linked bank account. Otherwise I'd just use my bank card, which can be used as a credit card. Honestly, I wouldn't bother with Paypal because I've had so many problems with them in the past, but increasingly merchants prefer it for online purchases and it's pretty much mandatory for ebay.
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Allen I sent out a Postal Money Order yesterday for my shield. I finally did get to talk to Paypal people and someone at my Credit Union. It looks like we are making some progress on the issue, but still no resolution. I am hopefull that by the time the shields are done, I will have this resolved so I can pay the shipping via Paypal. If not, I'll send you another M.O. to cover it.
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Debating on jumping in right now, I seem to of forgotten about this thread :s Just don't have a credit card myself...
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Ulric, you can go the money order/ check route as Matt did. I've held off ordering the necessaries for his in case he was unable to get things sorted out ( which he has ). I will be ordering a second side of facing leather and getting a third sheet of plywood when his check comes in and will have the rawhide, fabric and strapping leather in already so would have the supplies at hand to do it.
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Debating on jumping in right now, I seem to of forgotten about this thread :s Just don't have a credit card myself...
As somebody with lots of MercTailor / Allan gear, I suggest jumping on the opportunity while it's available.
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Think I'll go with the early heater as I am doing mid to late 13th century. Still unsure if the early heater is period to that time but I think it is, correct me if I am wrong.
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Ulric, the early heat we used to make was based on a 12th century example that was actually a converted teardrop shaped shield. It had has the top curved portion removed. There is considerable overlap between the early and late types over time with a number of slight variations in size and shape to be seen. You can find both in existance at the same time in the 13th and earlier 14th centuries. The designation of " early " and " late " as we used them on the old site was more to give a reference point for clients rather than go into a long winded history lesson on how the type developed over 200 years.
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In that case I think I'm gonna go with early so it wont look out of place in the earlier centuries. Can always find older weapons in the later centuries but never later weapons in earlier centuries. I am gonna try to talk my folks into letting me borrow their credit card or something and I'll pay the back later.
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So when are these being made my folks agreed to helping me purchase it using their credit card. Are they gonna come painted?
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Ulric, I started the ones that are ordered last week. Each much be cut out, go into the press to cure for 24 hours, be drilled, trimmed up and sanded, have the fabric backing glued down, strapping riveted in, leather facing glued down, rawhide applied, steel joint clips applied and stuff leather arm pad applied between the straps.
Painting is something done by my wife. She would need to see a picture of what you want painted to give you a quote on cost.
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helping me purchase it using their credit card.
Ulric, your folks will need to tie thier card into a paypal account. I haven't been able to process credit cards since closing ( not point in paying $250 a month for proseccing fees for a site I don't have ).
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Just as by way of an update, I was able to finally get all my paypal problems fixed. Apparently they depostited the verification amounts into a holiday account my wife had linked to our checking account. I am not sure how that happened, but they say they have everything straitened out. When I bought something off ebay tonight, the paypal payment went through so I guess everything is ok. I should be able to pay shipping via paypal when the shields are done now, HOORAY!
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My folks said they can pay via paypal no problem, if thats more convenient for you than credit then I will do it that way.
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My folks said they can pay via paypal no problem, if thats more convenient for you than credit then I will do it that way.
Paypals fine.
I'm taking the third shield out of the press today. Amongst other things today, i'll be doing clean up on the first three sets of boards. I'll be making a run to the supplier tommorow for another piece of wood to get the fourth shield in the press.
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My folks said they can pay via paypal no problem, if thats more convenient for you than credit then I will do it that way.
Paypals fine.
I'm taking the third shield out of the press today. Amongst other things today, i'll be doing clean up on the first three sets of boards. I'll be making a run to the supplier tommorow for another piece of wood to get the fourth shield in the press.
Awesome. :)
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Hey Allan, I'd sent you a PM on this.
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Spent three hours this morning cutting up and punching out four sets of all the strapping ( andarmes and gauige straps ). Punching out over 600 3/16 inch holes one at a time sucks. I need to run out for some contact cement to glue down the fabric backing, next apply the straps, then glue down to leather shield facing. I whould be starting to rawhide some edges the middle of next week I think.
I know we keep getting told that theres " no inflation " by our politicritters but the $8 increase per 4'x8' of 1/8" plywood since last summer and the $20 increase for a side of rawhide since last summer were a bit of a surprise.
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Yeah, prices are going up on everything. I think a lot of it is due to increased energy and fuel costs, since a lot of the price goes into transporting the materials these days.
Let me know if I need to throw a little more cash your way to make up for the cost increase of the materials. I'll be happy to do so. I don't want you to be working for free, or at a loss.
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Let me know if I need to throw a little more cash your way to make up for the cost increase of the materials. I'll be happy to do so. I don't want you to be working for free, or at a loss.
Same goes for me too, Allan.
The only reason congress-critters don't think prices are going up is because they keep voting themselves raises above and beyond what the inflation rate is, and they're completely out of touch with reality. Last time I was at home depot a 4'x8' sheet of plywood, I think 1/2", was $45 per sheet! I was considering building an archery lean-to style area that I could use for target practice to teach the youngins how to shoot ... but I saw the price of the plywood and walked away.
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Let me know if I need to throw a little more cash your way to make up for the cost increase of the materials. I'll be happy to do so. I don't want you to be working for free, or at a loss.
Same goes for me.
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Well my sheet metal guys car sh** the bed yesterday and given that my car isn't street legal either, it made my sheet delivery late so I swapped yesterdays plan for this weekends evenings and got all of them, fabriced, strapped, leathered and they are now drying. Should be ready to start rawhiding, Sunday- Monday.
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Great job, Allan. Thanks for the update. Let me know if the big image for my lions statant didn't make it to your email. The legs made it here yesterday; I love them! The buckles match the "WMA" arms I got from you, and they fit beautifully over the greaves you made too. Awesome, as always! :)
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James, the email showed up no problem.
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Well, rawhiding has to wait to start till tonight. I put the first shields worth in the pot yesterday, and it was still a bit stiff last night. The hide they send me was some of the most uniformly thickest they've sent me, nearly all of 6.oz thickness, so its looks like a little more soaking is necessary. The edges of the shields should be pretty damned close to bombproof with this stuff.
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Excellent, I guess we just got really lucky. But don't worry, I don't plan to deflect grenades with mine. :)
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Excellent, I guess we just got really lucky. But don't worry, I don't plan to deflect grenades with mine. :)
Yes but is it not a reassurance that if there was ever a need that you could? ;)
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Excellent, I guess we just got really lucky. But don't worry, I don't plan to deflect grenades with mine. :)
Let's see what happens on Dec 21st this year before we decide for sure. :)
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If I die before I turn 40 I will take it PERSONALLY.
*looking up at Him*
Like He cares. lol
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Guess these are gonna be VERY durable shields then. When you're ready PM me your info so I can pay I'll send mine as well.
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Ulric, you can go ahead at mercenarystailor@hotmail.com. The wood, rawhide, backing fabric, strapping leather, glue are all here, I need to order one more side of facing leather which yours will cover, to get on lione to come in while your baords are in the press, and going through the various stages getting prepped to get the facing leather glued on.
The first late heater, got rawhided tonight. I've got hide in for an early heater tommorow night.
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The Mrs' finished James's artwork yesterday. It'll need a day or two to cure before I rawhide it. The other three are rawhided, i'll be adding the steel edge clips and stuffed leather arm pads over the next few days. I figure twords the end of the week I should be able to run the three unpainted shields to UPS for shipping quotes, James's will be done over the weekend and ready to ship.
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Sweet!
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Cool, thanks for the update. Looking forward to it!
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Allright payment sent. Looking forward to seeing the shields from the pics of them I saw on various reenacting sites I like how they look.
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I was just saddeling up to run Matt and Ed's shields over to UPS. I have Matts address on the envelope that he sent me payment in but just noticed that the paypal notification that I copied off from Ed doesn't have his address. Ed can you message me your address and i'll get the shipping quotes for you two?
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PM sent. Thanks!
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Ed and Matt, just PM'ed you the UPS shipping costs. James, I rawhidded your last night. Should be able to put on the metal fittings and arm pad and get you a shipping cost Wed/Thursday. Ulric, your boards came out of the press yesterday.
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Payment sent. Thanks!
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I too have sent payment. Thanks Allan.
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My shield arrived today, it's a bit bigger than I thougtht it would be. It looks really nice and will look even better once I get my wife to paint my CoA on it. Anyone know the best type of paint to use for that?
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i think acrylic works best. anyone else?
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Shields just got here yesterday, and they're awesome.
I think Acrylic is closest to period, but I'm not sure how durable it will be. I'm tempted to investigate oils that might look like acrylic when dry, or if there are specific leather paints. I just don't know what's out there currently.
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Epoxy based paints are more expensive but the most durable.
(That is what is on your other one Sir Edward) ;)
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Tis true, but I think for these shields I want a period-looking paint, so they might pass muster at a more authenticity-serious event.
Actually what I'm considering doing is painting the late heater with my heraldry, but the early one with a Teutonic cross.
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I am definitely looking for more period authentic paints. My plan is to have my wife paint my CoA on mine, she's the artist not me.
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The tan of the facing leather allows for pretty good adhesion for acrylic spray paints and brush paints, which is what the wife uses ( Krylon for base color, Testors Model Masters paints for all the hand painting ).
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if u want to be period, you can buy milk paint online or at different stores
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if u want to be period, you can buy milk paint online or at different stores
Have you used it before? I'm curious how it holds up and looks.
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(http://www.historiclife.com/images/Normans/ConroiFitzOsbernMarch06/Full/PICT0025.jpg)
(http://www.historiclife.com/images/Normans/ConroiFitzOsbernMarch06/Full/PICT0017.jpg)
milk paint looks great :)
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I thought I read on maybe myarmoury somebody posting a recipe for making that stuff.
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My shield got here today. I'm not sure how to adequately describe it. It's not what I expected, yet, it is.
Every piece I've got from Allan so far has been great. So, I expected great. What I actually got, was beyond what I expected.
The metal trim bits, the two-style hand straps - I had no idea it would have those things. It's fan-flippin-tastic. SUPER happy with it! And the coat of arms turned out awesome too. Allan, as always, thanks for a wonderful product, and please tell your wife great job with the painting and thank you for doing it!
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pictures dang it
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pictures dang it
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/shields/th_2012-04-13213916.jpg) (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/shields/2012-04-13213916.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/shields/th_2012-04-13214019.jpg) (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/shields/2012-04-13214019.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/shields/th_2012-04-13214012.jpg) (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/shields/2012-04-13214012.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/shields/th_2012-04-13213938.jpg) (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/shields/2012-04-13213938.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/shields/th_2012-04-13213948.jpg) (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/shields/2012-04-13213948.jpg)
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That looks nice and the straps are adjustable which is cool. Looks like I'm gonna have to get a coat of arms painted on mine as well. Though I was thinking a simple cross could do it fine for me, I actually have a family coat of arms thats German in origins, been considering using that. How much does painting it cost?
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Dang, that is quite beauteous!
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Absolutely gorgeous! Well done as always Allan and your wife is an exceptionally talented at painting! :)
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That looks awesome. You hit the nail on the head with you're description of the shield and the craftsmanship. I am super happy I decided to jump in on this and didn't miss out. I only wish now I had saved up and picked up some of the armor I wanted like the Almain Collar.
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OOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!! 8)
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Let me just come right out and say it- I saw Sir James' shield yesterday and was flabbergasted, it was an absolute marvel. The shield was strapped to allow for two kinds of carrying, in addition to a guige strap- that thing was so pretty!
Allan, you and your wife really outdid yourselves, I'm "Sir Brian" with envy! lol
Very well done.
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Mine arrived today, I am quite impressed and happy with it, it's basically the same size as my old one only wider a bit. I like how the straps are adjustable and the feel of it's more comfortable than my old one as I can grip it bare handed, the back strap isnt too large and fits me quite well. Now just to find an artist willing to paint it for me and to figure out what to paint on it, I'm thinking a simple cross but I already have a shield with that on it. Pics will be posted as soon as my cam charges.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/403409_3816205686929_1331193069_4515233_978604672_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/546609_3816205286919_1874418463_n.jpg)
As promised there are pics, quite impressed with the quality as I said. If you were still in business I probably would order plate armor and whatnot from you as I like the hand crafted appeal to to it.
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Yeah, these really turned out well! I'm very happy with the ones I received as well. I'm still decided what paints I want to use for mine.