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Practice Longsword on sale!
« on: 2011-02-09, 16:34:05 »
Wow! This is even cheaper than when I bought this back in November 2010! Good back up or extra blade for those in need. I just had Paul W. @ MASHS make me an aluminum waster otherwise I would pick another one of these up.  :)

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SH2395&name=Tinker+Pearce+Blunt+Trainer+Longsword
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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #1 on: 2011-02-09, 17:10:31 »
What's it going for on there, Sir Brian?
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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #2 on: 2011-02-09, 17:23:02 »
$111.95  :)
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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #3 on: 2011-02-09, 17:56:36 »
Oh man!  Oh man...I just remembered, I have no money at the moment.  Sheesh!!!  lol
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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #4 on: 2011-02-09, 18:43:35 »
Oh man!  Oh man...I just remembered, I have no money at the moment.  Sheesh!!!  lol


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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #5 on: 2011-02-10, 13:45:44 »
That blade is a screw down tang and not peened. Anyone have any experience with them? Do they rattle apart?

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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #6 on: 2011-02-10, 14:31:42 »
That blade is a screw down tang and not peened. Anyone have any experience with them? Do they rattle apart?

Sometimes after a hard practice session but a couple of turns with an allen wrench and it's good to go.
If it happens to often then I might add a dap of lock-tight next time.  ;)
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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #7 on: 2011-02-10, 16:49:46 »
Oh man!  Oh man...I just remembered, I have no money at the moment.  Sheesh!!!  lol


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That would be grand!  lol

James, I have experience with the H/T swords...they're well built and like Sir Brian said, a turn or two with the allen wrench and all is well.  Lock-tite will only serve to make it so that he probably won't have to tighten it again, or not for a while at the least.
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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #8 on: 2011-02-10, 17:25:52 »
That blade is a screw down tang and not peened. Anyone have any experience with them? Do they rattle apart?

Yes I would steer well clear of screwed or bolted tangs. The join between the blade and the stud/bolt, under the quillian, is a weak spot and has a habit of snapping apart  :o

Full tang with a hot peened pommel is absolutely the way to go.  ;)

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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #9 on: 2011-02-10, 17:48:25 »
Yes I would steer well clear of screwed or bolted tangs. The join between the blade and the stud/bolt, under the quillian, is a weak spot and has a habit of snapping apart  :o

Full tang with a hot peened pommel is absolutely the way to go.  ;)

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I would agree with you, Sir Gerard, if we were talking about swords where the tang's welded on, or at the worst, a threaded rod welded on.  However, the Hanwei/Tinker line of swords are hand-forged with a full tang that is drawn down to a softer form of steel than the blade itself to better absorb the shock of contact...the threads are added after the forging process to the end of the tang to accept a sleeved nut.  As with all things threaded, there is the possibility of it coming loose- but I can't say its the norm.  I put mine under heavy usage, including blade on blade sparring with no ill effects and no rattling.  It has come slightly loose during these times but nothing a turn or two of an allen wrench won't fix.

These were made primarily to allow customization- you can switch out practice blunt blades for sharps when transitioning between forms/sparring to cutting exercises, not to mention guards, grips and pommels (so long as the pommel's been channeled for the sleeved nut).  Having the ability to purchase JUST the blade (as opposed to a whole sword) is a cost-effective way for some to continue to engage in the sport they love w/out breaking the bank.

Of course, I'll allow that the full tang hot peen is the safest and strongest way to go, but the H/T swords offer something those peened ones do not so in the end, personal preference will out.
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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #10 on: 2011-02-10, 17:53:03 »
The Hanwei Tinker swords are fine, and are a great bargain for the price. They're sturdy enough for general training, and they approximate the handling of a historical sword pretty well. They get chewed up a little faster than a higher end sword, but they're great as loaner swords or as something to start with if you aren't 100% certain you're going to stick with training over the years.

Keep in mind that these are not stage combat swords, nor are they reenactment swords. They are designed for martial arts practice. I suspect if you use them for the former, they will probably not last as long.
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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #11 on: 2011-02-10, 19:50:26 »
The only complaint I have about mine was the leather wrap was a bit on the shoddy side but some liberally applied superglue remedied that no problem and since everything is so easily disassembled I will probably end up rewrapping the handle anyways.  ;)
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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #12 on: 2011-02-10, 21:48:12 »
How does the Hanwei Practical Hand and a Half Sword - 5th Generation - SH2106 compare to the Tinker Pearce Blunt Trainer Longsword - SH2395 as a training weapon?  With the current sale they're similar in price.  I know that I could use either in my current longsword class, but if I were to also participate in SCA fencing only the Practical Hand and a Half has been approved for use.
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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #13 on: 2011-02-10, 21:55:02 »
The Hanwei Practicals feature a thick blunt edge that makes it ideal for SCA and re-enactor usage; as Bill said, the H/Ts aren't built for stage or re-enactment but more for light sparring and forms work.  The added plus being that the sharp and blunt versions of the sword are built to be 'twins', that is, it should feel relatively the same when using either the sharp or blunt.
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Re: Practice Longsword on sale!
« Reply #14 on: 2011-02-10, 22:07:32 »

The Tinker is a real longsword in terms of size and balance.

The Hanwei hand-and-a-half is really not a longsword. It's more like a single-hand sword with a larger hilt (and I use it as my single-hand trainer).
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