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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #45 on: 2012-03-07, 16:54:40 »
Was a 'flayed man' ever used?  Been reading Game of Thrones, some of their charges are just wildly fascinating to me.  Or the use of dead animals as your banner.  Probably wouldn't go over well with the family crowds of the RFs.  lol

I have a feeling a wyvern is like a dragon, but could you clarify?  And which peoples would've used one?  You lol'd with bonnacon, what is that, pray tell?

Sir Brian, ever since I saw A Knight's Tale, I've wanted a fist on the end of my lance.  You know, I typed that and it struck me as somehow odd or off.  lol
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #46 on: 2012-03-07, 17:04:46 »
A wyvern is a dragon that has only two legs (like a bird, its "arms" are actually the wings).

A bonnacon is a period mythical beast that is, well, rather interesting. Lord Rodney has one on his shield on our roll of arms.  (http://bestiary.ca/beasts/beast80.htm). It's like a bison or ox, but farts out explosions of flaming dung that incinerate the countryside. :)
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #47 on: 2012-03-07, 18:54:09 »
Bonnacons :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnacon

Also, even if we repeat the same animal charges, there's always colors as a difference. I have a white lion. Sir Brian has a gold griffin. That leaves a bunch of other colors of the same charges too.
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #48 on: 2012-03-07, 21:30:33 »
Quote from: Sir William on 2012-03-07, 14:48:35
So, Sir Patrick...are you ready to create my dragon crest?  :).
That sounds like a cool project. Maybe someday...
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #49 on: 2012-03-08, 14:43:53 »
Didn't one of our brethren do one of those, with an explosive representation of the effluence of gas?  A bonnacon I mean.
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #50 on: 2012-03-08, 15:14:13 »
Lord Rodney has a bonnacon in his CoA.  ;)
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #51 on: 2012-03-08, 16:21:12 »
That's the one...wasn't sure who, just knew that I'd seen that before.  Hilarious.  I think I'm going to go w/out a charge...can't seem to find one that suits me at the moment.
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #52 on: 2013-02-02, 13:42:04 »
The one now adorning my black Great Helm is a Great Dane in cast bronze with a black & gold mantle and a black torse wrapped in gold wire.
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #53 on: 2013-08-09, 04:56:41 »
I've never been entirely happy with the way my griffen crest turned out, so the other day I broke out my tools and got to work.  I cut down the ears, re-worked the eyes and beak, added feathers to the head, and of course the wings.  Just finished gold leafing it and thought I'd post a few pics.
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #54 on: 2013-08-09, 05:45:48 »
I need a crest for my helm though on my mother's side of the family their coat of arms is all red with a unicorn, while on my dads side it's a white duck. If I had the choice I'd take unicorn over duck cause well equines are more fierce than ducks and more medieval. Though I cant find either of those in a cast bronze, plus bronze would make it much more heavy.
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #55 on: 2013-08-09, 11:18:42 »
Sir Patrick that looks great!  I bet it looks pretty impressive in full regalia!
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #56 on: 2013-08-09, 13:07:16 »
Quote from: Ian on 2013-08-09, 11:18:42
Sir Patrick that looks great!  I bet it looks pretty impressive in full regalia!

Seriously, I'm a little jealous. :)
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #57 on: 2013-08-09, 17:22:29 »
Quote from: Sir Edward on 2013-08-09, 13:07:16
Quote from: Ian on 2013-08-09, 11:18:42
Sir Patrick that looks great!  I bet it looks pretty impressive in full regalia!
Seriously, I'm a little jealous. :)

Awesome job! That looks great Sir Patrick!  :)


Quote from: Sir Ulrich on 2013-08-09, 05:45:48
I need a crest for my helm though on my mother's side of the family their coat of arms is all red with a unicorn, while on my dads side it's a white duck. If I had the choice I'd take unicorn over duck cause well equines are more fierce than ducks and more medieval. Though I cant find either of those in a cast bronze, plus bronze would make it much more heavy.

Well you don’t have to use either of what is on your parent’s family crest unless your COA is a continuation of theirs but even then you don’t have to use a charge in your COA. You could practically use any charge you want, they were typically some relation to the COA but not always.

I always thought the various hand or fist charges were cool, say for instance a hand holding a hammer or sword would be freakishly unique.  :o  ;D
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #58 on: 2013-08-09, 17:51:16 »
Thanks guys!  I will eventually re-do the mantle and torse as well (when I upgrade my surcoat).
EDIT:  I'm thinking about ermine for the mantle lining. Would the spots have been embroidered on, or painted back in the day?  ???
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Re: Help fix boring Helm
« Reply #59 on: 2013-08-09, 18:18:17 »
Quote from: Sir Patrick on 2013-08-09, 17:51:16
I'm thinking about ermine for the mantle lining. Would the spots have been embroidered on, or painted back in the day?  ???

Actually either would be appropriate. :)
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