Argument: Templar vs Teutonic Knight

[Sir Brian]

And to put it into a more recent and personal perspective:

At the Capitol HEMA Open January 26, 2013. I defeated Sir Edward in a longsword duel. A mutual friend of ours named Josh beat me in a following duel, then Sir Edward beat Josh. – Who wins in a duel? The better fighter each and every time!

[Sir Nate]

Ok ok ok.
Templar and Hospitaller: unknown outcome
Templar and Teutonic: Its tuff not to have a biased opinion. But im still going to say a Templar would 67 percent chance win.

[Sir Edward]

And to put it into a more recent and personal perspective:

At the Capitol HEMA Open January 26, 2013. I defeated Sir Edward in a longsword duel. A mutual friend of ours named Josh beat me in a following duel, then Sir Edward beat Josh. – Who wins in a duel? The better fighter each and every time!

That was great! I love it when it works out that way.

But yes, the thing is, sometimes "the better fighter" is the guy who gets a lucky shot, or knows one move really well and executes it perfectly, or just simply doesn't have the sun in his eyes. Or maybe the other guy is having a bad day. There are so many factors, it's almost impossible to predict the outcome.

[Sir Nate]

In real life it is impossible. And for the chance of both warrios following their training step by step, is unlikely.

[Sir Douglas]

It all comes down to who ate their Wheaties the morning of the battle.

[Aiden of Oreland]

Teutonics are luckier than templars so teutonics would win?

[Sir William]

I think the only real advantage a Templar might have over a Teuton is that the Templar was all-in; not knowing much about the Teutonic Order, I can't really comment on it (but Sir Nathan could, at length) but Templars believed that to die on the battlefield was the ultimate sacrifice to God and their reward would be entry into Heaven so in a fight, a Templar wouldn't back down.  The rank and file were zealous in the pursuit of their religion and all that it entails- up to an including death to all unbelievers.  My guess is, if you told a Templar that a Teuton was an unbeliever, that Teuton might be in trouble. 

[Sir Nate]

Well im sure alot of them were death to non believers. But If someone wasnt there enemy. Say another crusader who is a non believer. He may  just kick his arse. but idk if hed kill him.

[Aiden of Oreland]

Tuetonics also fight for god at all costs. The have won battles that were against greater foes.

[Sir James A]

Tuetonics also fight for god at all costs. The have won battles that were against greater foes.

Just like Templars

Templars had specific rules demanding that they don't leave the field of battle unless outnumbered - I forget specifics but maybe 3 to 1? Also ordered that they don't leave unless the Templar banner has fallen. They are not to be taken prisoner, they are to retreat or die.

[Sir William]

I consider the Templars as the first of the holy orders; so feared that the French King Philip le Bel concocted spurious charges in order to detain every Templar knight he could get to - just to avoid having to pay the Order back the funds he'd borrowed.  Not that it did him any real good...he was dead within a year after burning the last Templar Grand Master, Jacques de Molay, at the stake for heresy.  De Molay is said to have cursed both the King and the Pope, and they both had died within a year.

The Tuesday after next will mark the 700th anniversary of de Molay's death.

[Sir Wolf]

who has more movies, documentaries and books written on them?

[Sir Douglas]

who has more movies, documentaries and books written on them?

Heh, I think Templars win that one by a landslide.

[Aiden of Oreland]

who has more movies, documentaries and books written on them?

Heh, I think Templars win that one by a landslide.

Maybe its time to change that.

[Lord Dane]

Self-sacrifice is only as virtuous as the reason for why one gives up his own life. Virtue without any idea of what it means or why you defend it is as pointless as saying it & doing nothing. It must be reflected and perceived as such in practice and/or action.