wow check this out.

[Sir Wolf]

http://www.historiavivens1300.at/hv1300.htm
http://www.historiavivens1300.at/biblio/ritter.htm

most of it is in german but some pages are in english

[Sir Wolf]

http://www.brandenburg1260.de/start.html

[Sir Edward]

http://www.historiavivens1300.at/biblio/ritter.htm

Wow, that's excellent. He has everything-- the mail leggings and padded chauses, the coat of plates, the crest, lined surcoat, gambeson, shoulder details (I forget what they're called)... Man, I'm envious.

[Sir Brian]

They are called Ailettes.

http://www.liebaart.org/index.htm

Here is a link to a simular site. I found this one awhile ago when I was researching
my kit...I almost chose the time period when Ailettes was in favor but opted for
a period just past their prime. 

Still they are very cool...which I believe would definately put them in YOUR time
frame Sir Edward! 
uh oh! More work!

[Sir Edward]

Oh no!

Well, I'm rescued by the fact that I wear the coif's mantle over the surcoat... but then, maybe not, since I could always wear the surcoat on the outside and pretend the coif is integrated into the hauberk.

[Sir Wolf]

heh i did that with my riveted coif for norman reenacting.  i put on the coif first and then the hauberk. twisted my head a lil to give some mobility and NO NOE knew they weren't attached. even the guy standing next to me with his attached coif. see:





and if you want ailettes ed i got some heavy leather already cut to a size that will work

[Sir Edward]

That would be cool... damn, more painting to do...

[Sir Brian]

Found this site with some really incredible stuff here. Not sure if he’s all leather or steal;
things seem a bit vague on this site. Still great to look at even if it’s pretty much all fantasy
type armor. 

http://princearmory.com/

[Sir Wolf]

http://www.fiefetchevalerie.com/fief/?siculo-norman-miles-c-1186  nice kit here!