How Do I Make My Knightly Tunic/Surcoat

[Sir Brian]

Try doing some of the research for yourself, it can be very rewarding.

QFT and it really is half the fun!

[Sir Douglas]

Also, if you're looking at 13th century, I would highly recommend looking through the Maciejowski Bible (sometimes called the Morgan Bible). It has excellent examples of both martial and civil gear from about the mid-century.

http://www.medievaltymes.com/courtyard/maciejowski_bible.htm

[Sir Wolf]

oh yes it is!

[Aiden of Oreland]

I do like the waist high from the 14th century. But I may just make the shin length surcoat too. Why not have both . I may have to buy a Klapvisor bascinet and a Great helm. Maybe make helmet decor, I'll have to look into how to make the the waist one. Hey by the way, thanks for giving me so much help and putting up with me. I know I have a tendency to ask a lot of stuff on the forum. But know I do look a little into it first and that I'm not justing shooting things out of my mind lol. I'll cut back a bit though. Try and ask things that are more "valuable" if ya catch my meaning lads. Anyway, Do you think that awesome link you guys sent me earlier for the surcotte has one for the waist length tunic?

[Sir Douglas]

Why not have both

Yes. This is the correct answer to all of your decision questions from this point forward.

If you're talking about the La Cotte Simple pattern, the hemline length is to taste. There's no set measurement on it, so you can make it as long or as short as you want it.
I don't know how much sewing experience you have, but if you are unsure about making it, I personally would recommend making a mockup out of a cheap fabric like muslin before cutting up your more expensive material. Then you can see if you need to add/remove material, or modify the pattern. You can always cut away excess material if you have too much, but it's a bit more difficult to add material if you don't have enough.

[Aiden of Oreland]

Why not have both

Yes. This is the correct answer to all of your decision questions from this point forward.

If you're talking about the La Cotte Simple pattern, the hemline length is to taste. There's no set measurement on it, so you can make it as long or as short as you want it.
I don't know how much sewing experience you have, but if you are unsure about making it, I personally would recommend making a mockup out of a cheap fabric like muslin before cutting up your more expensive material. Then you can see if you need to add/remove material, or modify the pattern. You can always cut away excess material if you have too much, but it's a bit more difficult to add material if you don't have enough.

Ya, The one you see me wearing in this pic is one I made out of scratch. No instructions. Just kinda was like "Im going to make a surcoat before I go to MD Renfair" I made it so it jad 2 different kind of cloths. I ruffer tuffer one on the out side and a soft one on the inside. I did this so the soft one would be easier on the maille. Came out pretty good. Ignore the belt hight.

[Sir James A]

Why not have both

Yes. This is the correct answer to all of your decision questions from this point forward.

Agreed wholeheartedly!

[Lord Dane]

Be careful Aiden or Sir James will have you buying 'the national debt'. LOL

[Sir James A]

Be careful Aiden or Sir James will have you buying 'the national debt'. LOL

It's an antique! And priceless! Plus, the value of the debt keeps going up. It's a solid investment, nothing else on the market like it. Literally the only one of it's kind!

[Aiden of Oreland]

Be careful Aiden or Sir James will have you buying 'the national debt'. LOL

It's an antique! And priceless! Plus, the value of the debt keeps going up. It's a solid investment, nothing else on the market like it. Literally the only one of it's kind!

Again, why not buy that too! The more the merrier!

[Don Jorge]

Be careful Aiden or Sir James will have you buying 'the national debt'. LOL

It's an antique! And priceless! Plus, the value of the debt keeps going up. It's a solid investment, nothing else on the market like it. Literally the only one of it's kind!

/wrists

sad truth...

[Aiden of Oreland]

This may be off the subject a bit, but I noticed that some of the pictures presented show a man wearing a Klappvisier holding a Great Helm. I know they wore the caps with Aventails, but did they also wear Klappvisier under great helms? I tried looking it up but nothing really on the subject.

[Sir Edward]

Not that I recall. If you have an image in mind, I'd love to see it. Some of the early bascinets were worn under great helms, but these didn't need visors, because of the great helm.

[Aiden of Oreland]

Not that I recall. If you have an image in mind, I'd love to see it. Some of the early bascinets were worn under great helms, but these didn't need visors, because of the great helm.

These and some others I have seen. On Wikipedia it said they wore klappvisier(klappvisor) under great helms.

[Ian]

During most of the time that the great helm was worn over a bascinet, it was typically of the visorless variety.  I suppose you could put a great helm on over a visored bascinet, but chances are you'd remove the visor to wear both helms.  Klappvisor just refers to the way the visor was attached (in this case a single hinge above the center of the visor on the skull's forehead).  You can have a flat shovel-face visor like you've linked or a houndskull visor on a klappvisor attachment. 

All that really matters if you want to wear a great helm over the bascinet is the shape of the bascinet's skull so that the great helm will fit since the visor would be removed anyway.