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Top 10 Knights in European History
« on: 2013-11-03, 08:24:30 »
http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-plus-one-knights-in-european-history.php

Hi all

Ok do you agree  or disagree with this list? Who would you add or remove?

Thanks

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Re: Top 10 Knights in European History
« Reply #1 on: 2013-11-03, 19:43:15 »
I would have left off the fictional characters. I'm surprised Robert the Bruce didn't make the cut, or Geoffrey de Chargny (sp?). What about Hugh de Paen?
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Re: Top 10 Knights in European History
« Reply #2 on: 2013-11-07, 22:36:15 »
Honestly I think it's a mistake to mix real & fictional on this list - should be separate in my view.  And fully agree that de Charny should be on the "real" list.
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Re: Top 10 Knights in European History
« Reply #3 on: 2013-11-07, 23:12:39 »
At least not if you're calling it European history; they should do two different lists.  Then there's the whole Nine Worthies discussion.
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Re: Top 10 Knights in European History
« Reply #4 on: 2013-11-08, 16:38:16 »
Agreed on the fictional vs historical meshing. Opens up a whole other world of literally impossible people.

Sir William, I also thought of the Nine Worthies.
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Re: Top 10 Knights in European History
« Reply #5 on: 2013-11-08, 20:19:25 »
Yes; although one could argue that Nine Worthies portray the utmost in chivalric and knightly virtues - that some of those chosen are from fiction rather than history will serve to underscore the point.  Since William Marshal isn't considered one, I'm thinking Arthur should be replaced by him.  Such is my thought on the matter, in any case.
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