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Re: Why steel helmets for HEMA steel sword sparing? Because...
« Reply #15 on: 2013-09-16, 02:42:37 »
If someone is fighting BOTN or SCA style in a WMA/HEMA battle by trying to use brute force instead of refined technique, and subsequently bashing fencing masks in ... that person needs to be removed immediately as they are an unsafe competitor.

That has nothing to do with the safety of the mask; it's the training (safety) of the people wielding the weapons.
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Re: Why steel helmets for HEMA steel sword sparing? Because...
« Reply #16 on: 2013-09-16, 07:52:03 »
That has nothing to do with the safety of the mask; it's the training (safety) of the people wielding the weapons.

QFT! Sir Edward and I (mostly me though) had a bit of an issue with our power levels in training yesterday since we've both haven't down any real training in a month our control was a little off and we were landing some pretty hard hits on each other. - Again my apologizes Sir Edward!  :-[
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Re: Why steel helmets for HEMA steel sword sparing? Because...
« Reply #17 on: 2013-09-16, 13:42:03 »

Oh it's OK. We were both ramping up a little. Those hits were just getting a little into the heavy side, so I thought I'd mention them before we ramped up further. I was doing it too though. So it's all good. :)
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Re: Why steel helmets for HEMA steel sword sparing? Because...
« Reply #18 on: 2013-09-16, 17:05:09 »
That's why you can safely hit a fencing mask with a steel federschwert, but you need a 12 gauge steel helm for rattan.  Physics :)

That's also a really good answer. :)

Oh I see! So I wouldn't have gnarled fingers if I didn't take that 'physics' to the hand?  ;D

Yes, for that is 'applied' physics.  lol
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Re: Why steel helmets for HEMA steel sword sparing? Because...
« Reply #19 on: 2013-09-16, 22:54:40 »
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