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Re: I could use a hand in developing my heraldic shield
« Reply #15 on: 2013-07-08, 16:24:19 »
Brother Patricius,

Just a thought, ...
Try putting the red field above the white field (halved not quartered).
In the red field above, place your black honey badger in a forward facing position not rampant.
In the white field below, place a red maltese Templar cross centered.
The red field above is symbolic of your true self (if the honey badger is significant in this fashion).
The white field below represents your faith, beliefs, values, ideals, etc or other self.
Both are different in context but an integral part of the other as seen in the whole.
One cannot separate one from the other but only makes them fit together to be reflective of you.
Keep the color scheme as it works well together with the charges.

If this seems appropriate based on what you are seeking, you found your heraldry.
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Re: I could use a hand in developing my heraldic shield
« Reply #16 on: 2013-07-08, 18:28:00 »
That is an intriguing variance Lord Dane and something for you to consider Patricius.

If it is any help, my COA is actually marshaled along with my wife’s which I developed simultaneously with mine. Her primary metal and color is Silver and Black respectively and the Rose charge is synonymous with her given name. The Silver represents the purity of her beautiful soul and loving heart, the Black represents her faithfulness in our love and marriage. As I hold her high above me, her COA is chief on my COA. The wavy line of division represents the sea which I traveled upon so that by providence we first met. The field of Green is my hope and joy of rebirth due to my Christian faith and the Gold Griffin for me represents my pursuit of better understanding and respect of my Lord and yet to have perseverance to be ever vigilant and death-defying in protecting those that I love.
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Re: I could use a hand in developing my heraldic shield
« Reply #17 on: 2013-07-09, 01:10:17 »
Sir Brian, I don't believe I've ever heard the description of your coat of arms. That's very eloquent!
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Re: I could use a hand in developing my heraldic shield
« Reply #18 on: 2013-07-09, 02:00:14 »
Very touching Sir Brian. Nice sentiments put into your heraldry that reflect yourself sincerely.
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Re: I could use a hand in developing my heraldic shield
« Reply #19 on: 2013-07-09, 10:54:50 »
Sir Brian, I don't believe I've ever heard the description of your coat of arms. That's very eloquent!
Very touching Sir Brian. Nice sentiments put into your heraldry that reflect yourself sincerely.

Thank you gentlemen!  :)

I thought I had described the significance of my COA in my original post a couple years ago but after finding and reviewing it I had not. Well there it is then!   ;)
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Re: I could use a hand in developing my heraldic shield
« Reply #20 on: 2013-07-09, 14:06:50 »
Although I'm late to the party, I'm partial to the quartering of red and white myself.  I prefer the white over the yellow, all day long.
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Re: I could use a hand in developing my heraldic shield
« Reply #21 on: 2013-07-09, 15:30:08 »
Sir Brian, I don't believe I've ever heard the description of your coat of arms. That's very eloquent!
Very touching Sir Brian. Nice sentiments put into your heraldry that reflect yourself sincerely.

Thank you gentlemen!  :)

I thought I had described the significance of my COA in my original post a couple years ago but after finding and reviewing it I had not. Well there it is then!   ;)


We had talked offline a few years ago and I knew the griffin and rose was yours and your wife's, respectively, but I didn't know about the wavy division or the colors.
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Re: I could use a hand in developing my heraldic shield
« Reply #22 on: 2013-07-09, 16:26:40 »
hey, thats cool.

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Re: I could use a hand in developing my heraldic shield
« Reply #23 on: 2013-07-09, 16:36:59 »
BAN BAN BAN!!! Oh wait ... that's Sir Wolf's line.  :P
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Re: I could use a hand in developing my heraldic shield
« Reply #24 on: 2013-07-09, 17:06:52 »
Sir Brian, I don't believe I've ever heard the description of your coat of arms. That's very eloquent!
Very touching Sir Brian. Nice sentiments put into your heraldry that reflect yourself sincerely.

Thank you gentlemen!  :)

I thought I had described the significance of my COA in my original post a couple years ago but after finding and reviewing it I had not. Well there it is then!   ;)


Yes, its new to me too, but knowing you, not surprising.  I think we share a similar outlook on the elevation of our wives as the Ladies they are.
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Re: I could use a hand in developing my heraldic shield
« Reply #25 on: 2013-07-12, 09:01:07 »
Sir Brian,

let me start off by saying your description of your heraldry is most eloquent, beautiful and very touching.  Just like I wish mine to be.  It's awesome.  And in that:

Brother Patricius,

Just a thought, ...
Try putting the red field above the white field (halved not quartered).
In the red field above, place your black honey badger in a forward facing position not rampant.
In the white field below, place a red maltese Templar cross centered.
The red field above is symbolic of your true self (if the honey badger is significant in this fashion).
The white field below represents your faith, beliefs, values, ideals, etc or other self.
Both are different in context but an integral part of the other as seen in the whole.
One cannot separate one from the other but only makes them fit together to be reflective of you.
Keep the color scheme as it works well together with the charges.

If this seems appropriate based on what you are seeking, you found your heraldry.

I'm going to try this.  I like how it has my badger up top, the shield halved like the Beausant of the Templars, something I was thinking about myself to begin with, where the blackness describes their past and the white describes who they wanted to be.  Very touching Lord Dane.  For you all to have never met me in person, I truly feel like we are brothers and sisters in arms.

Now to find an angry heraldic badger facing forward  8) reminds me of the little guy trying to take on my lady's van.

everyone else, thank you so much for your input as well.  I wish to have my lady on that pedestal as well, but her being a single Mom, if only for 13 months, definitely made her a stubborn one :D 

oh well, guess I need to show her more pictures of y'all in armor, kissing your lady's hands.  She loved those pictures of Sir Brian and Joe Metz
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