New maille type on the market

[Sir William]

That's disappointing...its gotten to the point that I don't bother posting on there.  They're so quick to shoot down something that doesn't fall directly in line with their established thought, right or wrong.

[Ian]

Oh I didn't even realize until I re-read your comments that it got super MyArmoury moderated.  Those guys are out of control.  Way to stifle a new potential product....

For those that didn't see the thread, and since all the pertinent posts have been MyArmouryed (yes, that's a verb now), basically Shawn went on there to let people know about this new maille product being worked on.  The manufacturer of the new style of maille also came on there to talk about it.  Then Dan Howard, God's gift to the knowledge of all things maille comes on and basically says it's the same Indian crap that's been out there forever, and it's basically worthless, and then attacks the manufacturer because the name of his store is 'Roman Handicrafts' and starts talking about how inaccurate all of his stuff is with respect to surviving roman lorica hamata etc... 

At that point I posted and just said something to the effect of "Any improvement on the current product is good in my book!  We should be encouraging change in the marketplace and this is a total step in the right direction, let's keep the criticism constructive"  At that point a couple others chimed in, and it seemed like the thread was changing course and actually becoming encouraging, then MyA moderators got involved and removed everything, gutted the thread, and killed it... and with it, probably some of the confidence of the manufacturer who was putting his new product out there, and received a bunch of hot air instead of constructive criticism.

The experience re-affirmed to me why I no longer donate to MyArmoury.com.  It's such a shame,  because it's got some of the absolute best information available on the web, some of the best discussion, but some people on there just have to be the 'authority' on certain topics and blast anyone who doesn't agree....

[Thorsteinn]

Get the dude to hit up the Armour Archive?

[Sir Ulrich]

Yeah I saw that Ian, just annoys me how so many people are SOOO hard to satisfy, modern plate isnt even 100% accurate as the metals used are not forged with charcoal and are the same thickness everywhere, how anal are they about it seriously. At least this new maille has the right overlap and ring shape which is good enough for me.
 He emailed Erik D Schmid about his maille and whatnot, not sure how they're gonna respond but he did message KOA about selling his stuff which is a good thing. So if KOA stocks it I may get a hauberk of it.

[Ian]

I would be interested in a haubergeon.  I've been looking to replace mine with wedge-riveted instead of the pin-riveted maille I have.  After I got my wedge-riveted aventail I realized how much nicer it is than the pin-riveted stuff.  It just glides on clothing and skin instead of catching every little thread.

[Sir Ulrich]

Well I just got an email from Erik Schmid himself

Hello Shawn,

I noticed your post on myArmoury about this new mail being made in India. Do not be fooled. The links he is showing were made quite some time ago with my tools for another company. His website also has pictures of SN Exports products. Be cautious.

Cheers,
Erik

Rather disappointing but thankfully this happened before I payed for anything so I am rather glad I didnt spend a penny on this.

[Sir William]

Huh.  That's disappointing- SN Exports I'm somewhat familiar with having come across their site some time back when researching maille options.  Still...I'd like to see some exemplars from this new guy...if he can come close, that's still a step in the right direction.

[Lord Dane]

Does Erik think SNExports is a waste of money or their maille is cheaply made??

[Ian]

As I've mentioned to Shawn privately, I'm glad Erik warned Shawn about this.  I also found it rather amusing that the guy on MyArmoury who was blasting the photos as garbage and praising Erik's stuff was unknowingly calling Erik's own work the same Indian stuff already on the market...

I will give the moderators of MyArmoury the benefit of the doubt and assume Erik contacted them as well, and that's why the thread was gutted.

[Sir Edward]

Huh, so in this case maybe there was more going on than what we saw.

I've always had mixed feelings about the moderating there. Sometimes you have to moderate with a heavy hand to keep things on track (particularly when you have uncooperative users), but they have a habit of stepping in when people raise legitimate concerns or ask completely understandable questions. I'd rather cultivate an atmosphere of friendliness and helpfulness, than putting accuracy and scholarly approach above all else.

I haven't even logged in over there in quite some time now, unfortunately.

[Sir Brian]

Truly I do not interact that much over on that forum either basically because of the entire 'holier than thou' mentality. Education begins with questions and as the old adage goes: ‘The only stupid question is the one unasked!’ – Although some individuals SERIOUSLY skirt the raggedy edge of that axiom! 

[Lord Dane]

Truly I do not interact that much over on that forum either basically because of the entire 'holier than thou' mentality. Education begins with questions and as the old adage goes: ‘The only stupid question is the one unasked!’ – Although some individuals SERIOUSLY skirt the raggedy edge of that axiom! 

Because this is so true Sir Brian ... the only answer one can expect in response must be one of the following tones:
1.) Serious (for those taking the question as such on its merit in genuine interest)
2.) Sensitive (for those less knowledgeable without meaning to offend or seem condescending)
3.) Sarcastic (for those who already know the answer but need to be taught a lesson in humility)
4.) Senseless (for those who really can't answer the question due to a state of stupid)

LOL 

[Sir William]

I only troll the classifieds section - some of the higher end swords I've had pass thru my hands have been because of that one board.  Plus I just like to look at the pretties even if I can't afford them.  Not to mention the wealth of knowledge contained therein- I avoid the forums and stick with the reviews and classifieds.  Can't recall the last time I actually logged in.

[Sir James A]

I haven't even logged in over there in quite some time now, unfortunately.

I only troll the classifieds section

I do the same as Sir William. Log in, classifieds, log out. Or I'll check the 'kits and harnesses' thread if I have a new post notification. In rare instances I might read a few non-classified posts, but I don't think I've posted anything there this year.

[Sir William]

I can't even recall the last time I posted in MyA (if at all, none come to mind).  It is sort of like SFI in that regard...due to some insane backlash over I can't even remember anymore, but that place is pretty much the same.