Yeah Allan's you can tie directly to the mail if you got them with the point holes. As far as the shoes, you'll probably have to do it the "hard" way and not have them attached directly. It's a little more work, but not bad. You can put the chausses on first, then just use some lace to tie them up a bit temporarily, put on your shoes and tie them, then take out that temporary lace and let the chausses sit over top of the shoes. It's not hard, just takes a little time. The look is worth the time.
