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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #105 on: 2014-04-11, 21:45:53 »
Is that common at local hardware stores?

Gun stores will probably have it before a hardware store.  It's on Amazon here.

I use it on my guns too.  And Albion uses it on all their swords! :)
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #106 on: 2014-04-11, 21:51:48 »
Im sold. (well Ill purchase it this coming week.)
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #107 on: 2014-04-11, 22:08:18 »
A wire wheel will remove rust, but will micro-score the surface of the armor, making rust more likely in the future on the same principle I discussed above with pitting due to rust.  To prevent that, you'd need to polish over the spots you wire-wheeled and restore the surface to smooth to bring back your armor's natural ability to not corrode easily.
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #108 on: 2014-04-13, 04:42:57 »
A wire wheel will remove rust, but will micro-score the surface of the armor, making rust more likely in the future on the same principle I discussed above with pitting due to rust.  To prevent that, you'd need to polish over the spots you wire-wheeled and restore the surface to smooth to bring back your armor's natural ability to not corrode easily.

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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #109 on: 2014-04-14, 02:13:54 »
A wire wheel will remove rust, but will micro-score the surface of the armor, making rust more likely in the future on the same principle I discussed above with pitting due to rust.  To prevent that, you'd need to polish over the spots you wire-wheeled and restore the surface to smooth to bring back your armor's natural ability to not corrode easily.

Yep, absolutely. If the armor is polished, never use a wire wheel. If it isn't polished, the wire wheel won't make much difference.

The finer the grit used for polishing, the more rust-resistant the armor will be, for the reason Sir Ian stated above. There's substantial arguments over just how shiny is correct for period, however.
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #110 on: 2014-04-29, 20:29:19 »
Custom Chainmail has been doing some cool rust preventative tests on his maille samples... here's his latest results after 8 days of various products.  All maille samples were sprayed with saltwater.  Some samples are completely rusted, others lightly, some are rust free...

**spoiler alert**

The BreakFree CLP I've been trying to push on you guys forever is still rust free!

http://www.customchainmail.com/2014/04/29/day-8-update-rust-prevention-test-v2/
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #111 on: 2014-04-29, 22:31:18 »
Custom Chainmail has been doing some cool rust preventative tests on his maille samples... here's his latest results after 8 days of various products.  All maille samples were sprayed with saltwater.  Some samples are completely rusted, others lightly, some are rust free...

**spoiler alert**

The BreakFree CLP I've been trying to push on you guys forever is still rust free!

http://www.customchainmail.com/2014/04/29/day-8-update-rust-prevention-test-v2/

This is all from non oiled right? or do they apply the polish and then wet it?
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #112 on: 2014-04-29, 23:43:02 »
He starts with clean maille, then applies the rust preventative.

Then every couple days he sprays it with salt water, and the whole time the maille is left outside on his patio in Florida in the heat and humidity.
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #113 on: 2014-04-30, 01:53:54 »
I don't know what Tuf Glide is, but I find it interesting that Tuf Glide - Marine (which, based on the name, I assume is made specifically for use on the water) is actually more rusted than regular Tuf Glide.
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #115 on: 2014-05-01, 19:01:20 »
Wow! I am going to have to get some of that Break-Free CLP! Really holding up! That Ezzox looks pretty good too.
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #116 on: 2014-05-12, 18:09:17 »
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He put the last 4 samples in a salt-water bath and hung them back out.  CLP, Ezzox, Fluid film are still good.  WD-40 finally started to rust.  Now he soaked them overnight in plain water, and they're still looking pretty good.  The only one that is rusty now is the WD-40.  But after 3 weeks, and constant humidity and salt-water treatments with no re-application of the oils, all of those preventatives are working exceptionally well.
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #117 on: 2014-06-09, 18:52:32 »

I just wanted to add this again, since it came up at VARF this season, and Baron de Magnan was asking about where to get these.

Albion uses the grey ultra-fine Scotchbrite pads to do their finishing work, and so you can use them on Albions without changing the finish. They work great for armor as well.

Amazon has them here:  http://amzn.com/B000CQ6I7G
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #118 on: 2014-06-09, 21:08:57 »
Good tip, thanks.
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Re: Rust, preventing and cleaning
« Reply #119 on: 2014-06-10, 01:13:49 »
Awesome, I could use one of those.
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