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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #30 on: 2012-08-23, 15:15:45 »
Sir James, thanks- it did, made it much more attractive w/out actually doing too much to the sword itself- other than touching up the blade and doing a new wrap on the grip.

Ulrich, send him an email, his name is Jon Sarge- he's a good guy, customer-oriented so he's open to whatever you want.  If he can do it, he'll tell you so and likewise, if he can't, he'll let you know that too.

He could definitely re-wrap your scabbard if you were so inclined, and set up a suspension rig to integrate with it, giving it a much more historic appearance than a frog, or the double-wrap belt you have.  He can also rewrap the grip if you wanted and he's got a pretty good choice of colors that you can have for your scabbard, belt and grip.  He could even do an under the leather decoration, like a cross- or he can tool or stamp one (or more) wherever you want them.  In fact, he may have some suggestions- consider them, he knows what he's talkin about.
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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #31 on: 2012-09-20, 23:43:24 »
Well considering I didnt have enough time to custom wrap my scabbard and get a new intetgrated sword belt I ordered a sword frog from the inner bailey


May not be the most historically accurate thing but it does give the illusion that it could be an integrated sword belt, and looks a LOT more period than that UGLY triangular one I had.
I do plan to eventually upgrade my sword but considering the time constraints I had to go for this and it doesnt look BAD at all unlike the other sword frog I had.

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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #32 on: 2012-09-21, 02:36:40 »
:) just make sure to hang it off the correct side hehehe

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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #33 on: 2012-09-21, 16:09:58 »
LOL @ Sir Wolf

He might be a lefty like me!  ;)
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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #34 on: 2012-09-23, 22:06:23 »
Yeah, for some reason that crappy sword frog I had was a left handed one so I HAD to hang it off the wrong side. I honestly hated that thing, it was so crappy. This inner bailey one is MUCH better and I like it a LOT more than the other ones the laces make it look more period. I am picking up a new sword though, I want an albion but they dont come with scabbards.

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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #35 on: 2012-09-25, 16:52:40 »
Albions definitely do not come cheap, although from time to time you can luck up on a sale.  Best bang for your buck in terms of a sword and scabbard w/suspension rig is probably going to be along the lines of a Valiant Armoury offering. 

http://www.valiant-armoury.com/swords.php

Check them out if you haven't already...they're made with Angus Trim designed blades that are forged in China or India (I forget which, but Sonny has a QC process in place to pick out the occasional dud and his customer service is excellent) and they all come with handmade wood-cored scabbards w/integral belts and suspension- all for around $400.  I believe DSA is also doing this, but they've developed their own blade profiles (I find them clunky, but the DSA Knight that Sir Nathan owns is quite a bit nicer than their earlier offerings so take that w/a grain of salt) so you may want to talk to some owners before going with what they have.  I had a VA arming sword (singlehander) that was performance custom tuned by Angus himself, then further customized w/new furniture, fittings and scabbard and belt system built by Slayer (who no longer does this sort of thing or so I understand).  My point is, you can make it happen if you want to.
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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #36 on: 2012-09-25, 21:39:16 »
You can buy scabbards separately. Arms and Armor don't come with a scabbard unless you buy it with one - I still picked one up, and I'll get a scabbard for it eventually, too. I have lots of swords without scabbards. If worst comes to worst, just keep them in the tattered carcass of slain enemies, right? :)
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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #37 on: 2012-09-26, 14:06:21 »
I think Ulrich likes the total package...plus it keeps the edges from cutting other things, namely himself.  Or the cat, if he has one.  lol

In any case, A&A swords like Albions cost a good deal of money; such swords need a comparable scabbard, no?  The price of say, the Black Prince w/a DBK scabbard will run you well over $1600- for that price he could have four VA/Atrim swords with scabbards and belt rigs.  VA swords are good swords too, I've had a couple.
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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #38 on: 2012-09-26, 17:38:58 »

To me, the scabbard is the second half of the sword. It's OK if the investment is different between the two, but if you're going to spend a lot on a sword, it should also be OK in your head to spend as much on the scabbard & suspension as well.
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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #39 on: 2012-09-26, 19:12:14 »
I think Ulrich likes the total package...plus it keeps the edges from cutting other things, namely himself.

Completely understood. :) Just pointing out that if he wants an Albion, the lack of the scabbard shouldn't be the deciding factor, since it's easily taken care of.
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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #40 on: 2012-09-26, 22:06:11 »
Yeah I mainly go after swords WITH scabbards because unlike most of you I have limited income. Already spent excessively on armor but this was my money I mainly got for Christmas and birthday so yeah. I do want an Albion and hope to work on getting one with a scabbard, only issue is they'll be sharp and my parents arent too keen on having a sharp weapon in the house for whatever reason.
I wanted the Reeve for my birthday but my parents got me the Hanwei Tinker Norman saying it's the same basic design for a cheaper price. Prolly gonna get that upgraded rather than get an Albion yet, I do like the Ritter though and the Reeve. Round pommels dont appeal to me nearly as much. I probably will pick up the Valiant armory Castile when it's back in stock as it looks rather nice, only thing I dont like is the pommel isnt peened. I did look for a place where it was in stock but couldnt find it. It's also in red which I also like because my colors are red and black. Though for my teutonic knight persona the ritter is prolly the best choice.

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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #41 on: 2012-09-27, 02:37:22 »
Ulrich, I'm 17. As of now, I have what is known as NO income, to be only supplemented by summer job and paying for many of my things that I want.
Don't go buying an Albion just yet. Get your full kit together, then save up some more and get the Albion.

I have a humble Tinker and Darksword, both of which I am very proud of. Are they Albions? No. are they meant to be? No. Are they insanely functional and good swords? Yes.
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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #42 on: 2012-09-27, 12:38:15 »
Yeah I mainly go after swords WITH scabbards because unlike most of you I have limited income. Already spent excessively on armor but this was my money I mainly got for Christmas and birthday so yeah. I do want an Albion and hope to work on getting one with a scabbard, only issue is they'll be sharp and my parents arent too keen on having a sharp weapon in the house for whatever reason.
I wanted the Reeve for my birthday but my parents got me the Hanwei Tinker Norman saying it's the same basic design for a cheaper price. Prolly gonna get that upgraded rather than get an Albion yet, I do like the Ritter though and the Reeve. Round pommels dont appeal to me nearly as much. I probably will pick up the Valiant armory Castile when it's back in stock as it looks rather nice, only thing I dont like is the pommel isnt peened. I did look for a place where it was in stock but couldnt find it. It's also in red which I also like because my colors are red and black. Though for my teutonic knight persona the ritter is prolly the best choice.

Check these guys out, I just bought a new blade from their KRF armory store. Quality craftsmanship.

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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #43 on: 2012-09-27, 17:11:14 »
Yeah I mainly go after swords WITH scabbards because unlike most of you I have limited income.

I assure you, I have limited income. If not, I'd be posting from the 12th floor of the archers tower in the keep of the castle. :)

I'm 33, just last month bought my first Arms & Armor sword, have no scabbard, and no Albions either. Everybody has different resources and desires, and they will change over time. As the (self-proclaimed!) resident high-level armor addict, I applaud the work you've been doing on your kit/armor. And, when it's in the scabbard, there's hardly any difference to the mundanes between an Albion and a wall hanger.

Just saying, no need to lose hope - you can get an Albion later, and you can order a scabbard with it directly from Christian Fletcher (such as http://www.christianfletcher.com/Christian_Fletcher/Albion_Medieval_Single-Hand/Pages/Reeve.html). You'll have more financial resources as you get older, if you're willing to sacrifice in other areas.

Sir William's suggestion for the VA/Atrim swords is great for your current situation - Christmas coming up in a few months and such.
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Re: Improving my kit for Days of Knights.
« Reply #44 on: 2012-09-27, 17:44:59 »
Sir James probably brings up the most prudent point. If you want a good looking sword for the sake of nothing more than a wall / waist hanger then the exorbitant cost of a high end blade is hard to justify.  :-\

Yet if you have all the intension of practicing with the blade in solo drills and such then you might want to consider getting a high end blade. For me I wanted my first Albion to be a practice sword that I would hopefully get many years of actual use with and now that I consider my skill worthy of it I will in the next couple of weeks be the proud owner of an Albion which could be put to actual use.
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