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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #15 on: 2012-01-21, 06:55:12 »
The gorget seems to be holding everything correctly for now but I will have to get some examples of pointing with the leather cord and maybe a "how to" on how to do this for when the strap on the one side finally lets go.

I've got a thread here (http://modernchivalry.org/forum/index.php/topic,1566.0.html) and Sir Brian has posted some good info on sewing points further down the page too.
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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #16 on: 2012-01-21, 16:15:14 »
I'll eventually get the "proper" battle harness considering I DID get the green light from the better half :)


awesome. let's spend your money properly!

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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #17 on: 2012-01-22, 02:26:42 »
hah :) I still have to get a sword and shield yet...

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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #18 on: 2012-01-22, 16:01:26 »
We all have to start somewhere.... ;)

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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #19 on: 2012-01-23, 04:23:09 »
I'll eventually get the "proper" battle harness considering I DID get the green light from the better half :)


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http://www.revivalclothing.com/agincourtarmingcotte.aspx

Definitely my favorite of a few different variations of gambeson/arming coat/etc I've had so far.
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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #20 on: 2012-01-27, 04:43:40 »
I reccomend the Agincourt arming cotte. It's held up great for over 3 years now for me, and it really just makes my harness feel "Right"
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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #21 on: 2012-01-27, 13:02:59 »
hah :) I still have to get a sword and shield yet...

Believe it or not, arming garments are a lot more important. The comfort of a harness and the way it moves with your body is almost entirely dependent on the foundation clothing you have it pointed too.

The revival agincourt arming coat is an excellent choice for early 15th century onwards, as it will support your leg harness as well as your arms.  The other option if your going pre 1400 or so is a combination of pourpoint (leg harness support) and gambeson (padded garment on top that can support the arm harness, but also doubles as padding for maille). A straight up arming doublet like the agincourt cote is not padded and will not cushion maille, it's designed for full plate.  This may influence what you're interested in.

But take it from us, a good set of armong clothes can make all the difference in the world when it comes to comfort and mobility in harness.
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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #22 on: 2012-01-27, 13:17:57 »
But take it from us, a good set of armong clothes can make all the difference in the world when it comes to comfort and mobility in harness.

This. Granted, if you have poorly fitted armor, there's only so much you can do. But the foundation garments will make a world of difference. They'll largely determine how the weight distributes, and how well the armor sits in the right places.
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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #23 on: 2012-01-27, 15:09:56 »
Also keep in mind that no matter how well made the under garments are made there will still require the occasional modification to either lend better support of your armor and/or additional padding in the more troublesome chafing areas, which you’ll really only be able to discover those areas after you’ve been rubbed raw once or twice!  ;)
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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #24 on: 2012-01-27, 15:11:01 »
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Believe it or not, arming garments are a lot more important.

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But take it from us, a good set of armong clothes can make all the difference in the world when it comes to comfort and mobility in harness.


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This. Granted, if you have poorly fitted armor, there's only so much you can do. But the foundation garments will make a world of difference. They'll largely determine how the weight distributes, and how well the armor sits in the right places.



All of these. I cannot tell you how many times i've had to talk some one into getting decent arming clothes. They're not visible so theres no glitz factor, you can't " play " with them like pieces of armour, and without the armour you don't " look like a knight " but good foundation garments are absolutely essential to making armour wearing not just bearable but in fact " comfortable " ( in as much as humping and extra coupla dozen pounds is likely to be ). Good arming clothes make all the difference between a miserable short lived day in harness and a decent expirience wearing your gear.

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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #25 on: 2012-01-27, 15:22:07 »
Quote from: Allan Senefelder link=topic=1586.msg19890#msg19890
Good arming clothes make all the difference between a miserable short lived day in harness and a decent expirience wearing your gear.

On the average faire day for me I am wearing my harness a minimum of seven hours. Sometimes even longer. I will typically have almost all of it on for the ride to the faire and sometimes will not remove it until I get back home (if it's MDRF) or back to the hotel which is sometimes a 30 minute ride.  ;)
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Re: Pauldrons catching breastplate
« Reply #26 on: 2012-02-08, 20:41:14 »
Merc, this is good advice...it won't matter how pretty your armor looks if your clothing underneath isn't up to par.
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