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wow these are awesome
« on: 2011-06-28, 16:25:45 »
http://www.wintertreecrafts.com/splintedcuisse.html

wow wintertree crafts hits it out of the ball park. i really like these

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Re: wow these are awesome
« Reply #1 on: 2011-06-28, 16:51:02 »
Doesn't Sir Brian have a similar leg harness?  I do like the look of them...if I were of the mind to fight in my harness, I'd definitely get these.  Spring steel, tempered, is very hard, very durable.  Even as thin as the plates are, they'll hold up better than 16 gauge cold rolled.  Nice find, Sir Wolf!
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« Reply #2 on: 2011-06-28, 18:35:12 »
Looks very nice, and that's a great price for spring steel too. Are these for the 1340s kit, or starting a 23rd kit? ;)
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« Reply #3 on: 2011-06-28, 18:48:43 »
Yes they are very similar and actually a bit nicer than mine, this picture was the original inspiration for me having my cuisse made and improved upon recently by Allan.  ;)


With the spring steel and solid shank rivet construction these are far more battle worthy and at a very reasonable price. Definitely worth a serious consideration for any looking for some cool looking transitional leg armor.  :)
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« Reply #4 on: 2011-06-28, 19:23:56 »
definitely for the 1340s kit, which would make up the 23rd kit i think, i dont remember hehe

hmmm i do have the leather and the steel. might just go work out a pattern now.

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« Reply #5 on: 2011-06-29, 10:25:24 »
They`re really nice.
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« Reply #6 on: 2011-06-29, 12:37:59 »
definitely for the 1340s kit, which would make up the 23rd kit i think, i dont remember hehe

hmmm i do have the leather and the steel. might just go work out a pattern now.

English art rarely shows splinted greaves like these; most have maille only or frontal greaves over maille.

I have been looking really hard at art, effigies, and historical finds lately thanks to printing out the original text from the Battle of Wisby book (the Brian Price book is missing 200-300 pages). The BoW book even has some examples of the top only foot protection which I think I could make in my home shop. There are some cool arm guards and are almost like bazubands that have a build in wing with two holes in them, I would assume to lace a roundell too.

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Re: wow these are awesome
« Reply #7 on: 2011-06-29, 13:13:16 »
Quote from: Sir Wolf
wow wintertree crafts hits it out of the ball park. i really like these
And for a reasonable price too.  Of course, I'm biased as this is my favorite period and type of leg harness. ;)

That Age of Armour picture was the sole inspiration for my current leg harness.  I can't count the hours I drooled over it.  It's very sad that William "Cory" Hurt no longer practices armouring as he has a great deal of talent.  :(
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Re: wow these are awesome
« Reply #8 on: 2011-06-29, 13:58:47 »
definitely for the 1340s kit, which would make up the 23rd kit i think, i dont remember hehe

hmmm i do have the leather and the steel. might just go work out a pattern now.

English art rarely shows splinted greaves like these; most have maille only or frontal greaves over maille.

I have been looking really hard at art, effigies, and historical finds lately thanks to printing out the original text from the Battle of Wisby book (the Brian Price book is missing 200-300 pages). The BoW book even has some examples of the top only foot protection which I think I could make in my home shop. There are some cool arm guards and are almost like bazubands that have a build in wing with two holes in them, I would assume to lace a roundell too.

Although quite rare, there is a definate presidence for this type of "splinted" armour during the C14th.
http://www.themcs.org/armour/knights/Switzerland%20Basel%20-%20St%20Leonard%20Huglin%20von%20Schoneck%20died%201377-86%20tomb%201362%20187.JPG

http://www.themcs.org/armour/knights/2007%20MCS%20Drayton%20Beauchamp%20-%20St%20Mary%20Thomas%20Cheyne%201368%2037.jpg

This is a nice site for armour evolution throughtout the medieval period, with easy to understand graphs.
http://talbotsfineaccessories.com/armour/effigy/effigy%20analysis.html

And here`s one for you effegy buffs.
http://www.themcs.org/armour/14th%20century%20armour.htm

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« Reply #9 on: 2011-06-29, 14:48:19 »
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of German and Swiss knights with splint greaves in this time frame but I only have one maybe in the English effigies 1340-1350.

Looking at Talbot's chart there are some splint greaves in the 1360s on the English chart but none on the 1340s part of the chart, they mostly had shybolds over maille, maille, and some full greaves.
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« Reply #10 on: 2011-06-29, 15:11:37 »
Yes, it`s almost as if they started experimenting with lighter materials and compromises for agility over protection, especially if still being worn over maile chausses.
 We find alot of our older combatents prefare splinted armour for similar reason lol  ;)

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« Reply #11 on: 2011-06-29, 19:33:15 »
:) i think i will attempt something like these in the future