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Re: GDFB 14th Century Guantlets
« Reply #15 on: 2011-06-16, 19:03:36 »
Thank you for your timely endorsement Sir Gerard! I think I'll buy them while they are still in stock and on sale!  :)
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Re: GDFB 14th Century Guantlets
« Reply #16 on: 2011-06-16, 21:15:22 »
I've seen some like those before, think they were called demi's because they didn't go all the way around.  Can't hurt flexibility, that's for sure and the protection's there, unless you go around with your arms fixed as if you're constantly confused or sheepish.  LOL
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Re: GDFB 14th Century Guantlets
« Reply #17 on: 2011-06-16, 22:17:24 »
demi gauntlets only cover the back of the hand and the wrist. they have no fingers. most of the times they are 2 piece but some times they are 1 piece.

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Re: GDFB 14th Century Guantlets
« Reply #18 on: 2011-06-21, 11:15:50 »
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Thank you for your timely endorsement Sir Gerard! I think I'll buy them while they are still in stock and on sale!  :)

Woohoo! I got the e-mail this morning that my new steel mitten gauntlets are on the way and will be delivered tomorrow! I hope it's delivered early enough for me to add an additional palm strap if it needs it so I can wear them to WMA training tomorrow night!  ;D
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Re: GDFB 14th Century Guantlets
« Reply #19 on: 2011-06-21, 17:19:52 »
Has anyone fought with these?

Sorry, I only just saw this now. I have these as "loaner" gauntlets, and they are only a step above worthless for any kind of blossfechten. They have poor mobility and the rivits constantly pop out with pieces falling off. The only reason I haven't just thrown them away is because they will work for newer students to start learning harnisfechten, where they remain in the half-sword position and don't need much finger dexterity. Even there, these are not great for that, but they are better than nothing... and they encourage the students to buy their own. ;)

If you're looking for gauntlets for WMA training, the sad fact of the matter is that you simply have to spend the money. The reason gauntlets like these are cheap is because someone didn't put the time and effort into making them worthwhile. If you don't want to spend the money, then you need to go with something like lacrosse glove. But there's no such thing as cheap but good gauntlets.
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Re: GDFB 14th Century Guantlets
« Reply #20 on: 2011-06-21, 18:00:56 »
i am wondering if we could fix them for you Das Bill. putting in solid rivets with washers and making "sliding room" in the rivet hole if needed for better articulation.

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Re: GDFB 14th Century Guantlets
« Reply #21 on: 2011-06-21, 18:35:59 »
Well one favorable endorsement and one unfavorable endorsement.  ??? Since they are already purchased and in route I might as well try them out and see if they offer any better protection than my lacrosse gloves which is what I’ve been wearing the times I sustained notable hand injuries. I’ve found the leather clamshell gauntlets I have offers enough mobility but the shoddy pop rivet construction are insufficient to withstand much punishment. Yet for the expensive gauntlets I just repaired a friend’s pair of these MT fingered gauntlets,

And then tried them out on my pell and found them no more advantageous in mobility. They were comfortable and the articulation was excellent but not worth the extra expenditure at this juncture of my financial standing IMO. Perhaps someday my situation will improve and I would be able to afford the luxury of what would be deemed adequate gauntlets for WMA, then again I could also awaken from my stupor and abandon such frivolous pursuits altogether.  :-\
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Re: GDFB 14th Century Guantlets
« Reply #22 on: 2011-06-21, 19:36:58 »
Wake up from the stupor?  Heaven forbid!  W/out this, life is most mundane for me...I won't say joyless, but definitely mundane.
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Re: GDFB 14th Century Guantlets
« Reply #23 on: 2011-06-21, 19:44:48 »
I suppose the answer is that unless you can afford to have a pair of gauntlets tailor made to your specifications, then there is a certain amount of pot luck with ordering off the peg on the net. Ideally you should try before you buy.

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Re: GDFB 14th Century Guantlets
« Reply #24 on: 2011-06-21, 20:29:05 »
Well one favorable endorsement and one unfavorable endorsement.  ???

I thought he said he had similar ones, but not the same ones? I assumed that meant gauntlets with the same design, but not the GDFB ones?

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I’ve found the leather clamshell gauntlets I have offers enough mobility but the shoddy pop rivet construction are insufficient to withstand much punishment.

I think you'll find these to only be slightly better in that regard, sadly.

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And then tried them out on my pell and found them no more advantageous in mobility. They were comfortable and the articulation was excellent but not worth the extra expenditure at this juncture of my financial standing IMO. Perhaps someday my situation will improve and I would be able to afford the luxury of what would be deemed adequate gauntlets for WMA, then again I could also awaken from my stupor and abandon such frivolous pursuits altogether.  :-\

Well, my friend Jorg has a saying: "I'm too poor to buy cheap safety equipment." If you spend a hundred here, a hundred there, you end up in the long run spending the same as if you'd bought nice ones in the first place. Now, having said that, I fully appreciate just how expensive armor is, which is why things like lacrosse gloves are a great intermediary device. You might also want to look into plastic gauntlets, which are much cheaper than steel. (such as the ones made by Egg Armory) But if you want steel specifically, there's simply no choice besides expensive.
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Re: GDFB 14th Century Guantlets
« Reply #25 on: 2011-06-22, 08:59:48 »
Or just get the hit that Zweihammer Armoury sells, or the gauntlets from Bokalo Armourys.
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