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bet you had a boring 4th of July
« on: 2008-07-05, 23:31:12 »
we didn't ;)













ok what we did.

Added arming points to the tops of the legs.
Reshaped pauldrons, trimmed edges near neck area.
Changed plackart location adding a sliding center rivet.
Added second fauld.
Added tassets.

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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #1 on: 2008-07-06, 00:44:44 »
Hey, nice work! How's it feel, Ed?
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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #2 on: 2008-07-06, 18:06:06 »

It's quite a bit of improvement. I'll post some more pics later when I get a chance to pull them from the camera.

The repositioning of the breastplate over the plackart comes with the caveat that the breastplate pushes up higher towards my face when I sit down now, and probably runs a little longer over the front of the torso, but it's positioned to fit much more appropriately and follow more natural contour over the body.

We pointed the legs by attaching a leather piece that points to the arming doublet. After removing the belt straps from them, we had the leather and buckles left over to use for attaching the tassets. The straps had to be pulled very tight to get the tassets to sit high enough, so we may want to restrap them eventually. The second fauld lame articulates nicely, allowing me to sit and bend over without resistance. The original lame doesn't move as much.

The shots Chuck posted show one of the positions we tried with the pauldrons (outside the shoulder straps). We have a few shots where we sat them higher, which looks better, but they were also impacting my neck. So we trimmed the forward corners off, so that they just stop at my neck instead of gouging it. Having a mail standard here probably helps (dang, Historic Enterprises is out of stock on these). Chuck also bent the back end of the pauldrons around a little so they don't stick straight off my back, and instead contour around a little better.

So it's looking and feeling a bit better. I still need to either add points on the arming doublet for the arms in the right place, or use a leather strap to point it to the existing ones further up the shoulder. Eventually I'll look into greaves, and I still need a good set of gauntlets.

I just ordered a new mail fauld and voiders from HE, though as I said the standards are out of stock... I'll add that too when I get the chance.

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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #3 on: 2008-07-06, 18:51:32 »
hahaha u just HAD to order those didn't u ;)  (we talked about them all weekend long)  there are some other areas that i would like to improve on Ed's kit but that being said its Ed's kit hehehhe. some areas we found that we could only help some of the problems without diving into a complete overhaul of certain areas that the maker did not do. hehehe as i told him I'm only a magician, not a miracle worker. i had a great time armouring and am so glad Ed was happy with the improvements.  who knows what lies next... ;)

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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #4 on: 2008-07-06, 21:30:35 »
Yes, and thanks again for all the help! It's a lot more than I thought we'd even attempt. And yep, I couldn't resist the mail pieces. :)

Here are a few more pics, from before we added the tassets, showing the pointing of the legs, and the pauldrons mounted higher (highest I've ever had them, I think). This is also after adjusting the breast+plackart. Chuck's mail standard is standing in, since I don't have one yet.

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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #5 on: 2008-07-06, 22:40:48 »
i definitely like them pointed up that high better.

now... hmmmmmmmmm maybe I'll finish up those gutter greaves i started. or.... you can order a pair finished from mad matt: http://www.madmattsarmory.com/inv_legs.php heheh he's also got sabs for a good price too. I've ordered from him once. he's ok. I'd get the fitted greaves

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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #6 on: 2008-07-07, 00:32:17 »
Sir Wolf, you did some really nice work. Ed's kit is looking a little bit more historical, and it sounds like it functions a little better, too.
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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #7 on: 2008-07-07, 00:38:01 »

Oh yes, he did some really nice work. Thanks again Chuck! Let me know if you need help with the networking in the new office, so I can repay the favor. :)

Those greaves do look good, and they're not that expensive. I may wait and see how much I spend at Pennsic.
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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #8 on: 2008-07-07, 11:36:24 »
just let me know. ;)  if you get those greaves we can fit the demi greaves on your legs to better form to them. we can also add a pin to allow the legs to sit on the greaves etc and hold them up. so everything is not pushing down on the tops of your feet. :)


hmmmmmmmmmm ya that be cool about networking yayaya. whenever i get the money hehehe

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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #9 on: 2008-07-08, 16:20:49 »
Well you guys certainly were busy!

Your harness is looking very good Ed!  :)
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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #10 on: 2008-07-08, 17:07:49 »
hmmmmmmmmmm ya that be cool about networking yayaya. whenever i get the money hehehe

Just let me know. :) Maybe I need to learn to crimp cables. That way we could just get a spool of Cat5e and have at it.

Did I leave the hand-punch for the leather there? I forgot to check if it was in my bag. I'll check later, but if not, no biggie. I have another one somewhere.


Well you guys certainly were busy!

Your harness is looking very good Ed!  :)

Thanks! Glad you like it. Not bad for an afternoon's work. Chuck works magic in short order. :) Everytime we make some adjustments or improvements, I get excited about it again. Now I can't wait for the mail parts to get here. I really wanted that standard too, but it'll have to wait a bit. I'll have plenty of work to do anyway, in attaching the voiders. I want them to be removable, so I'm tempted to sew them onto pieces of linen that I can velcro to the arming doublet or something (heck, pointing them on wouldn't be bad either, though as I always say, if they had velcro back then, they'd have used it!) :)

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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #11 on: 2008-07-08, 17:32:53 »
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(heck, pointing them on wouldn't be bad either, though as I always say, if they had velcro back then, they'd have used it!)

QFT! I used velcro on my helm liner which I will have to take out and wash after this
weekend!  ;)
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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #12 on: 2008-07-09, 02:17:26 »
well do this. run some thin leather along all of the edges. then add some pointing holes to your arming jacket. then point the mail in several places.

aslo as to teh mail skirt. sew leather around the top of it and point it to the arming jacket as well. a few of the guys i know leave that on and step into the arming jacket and pull it up and on so they dont have to keep pointing it on everytime they get in and out of it.
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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #13 on: 2008-07-09, 19:03:13 »
hey what a nice brand new leather hand punch i seem to have acquired in my shop :)

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Re: bet you had a boring 4th of July
« Reply #14 on: 2008-07-09, 19:04:10 »

lol, thought so. :)
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