"It wasn't the reward that mattered or the recognition you might harvest. It was your depth of commitment, your quality of service, the product of your devotion -- these were the things that counted in a life. When you gave purely, the honor came in the giving, and that was honor enough."
                -- Scott O'Grady

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The Courtyard / HMB & Buhurt
« Last post by jason77 on 2018-05-08, 14:05:02 »
The Battle of Nations just took place in London and after watching the melees I am fairly unimpressed by the lack of skillset of many of the Buhurt fighters. That being said, I am not a critic of Buhurt itself as many of my fellow HEMA peers tend to be. I am simply a critic of sloppy footwork and bad technique or lack thereof. My main interest in Buhurt (as a non-participant) is a connection to the tournaments of history. Is Buhurt a modern rendition of a historical sport? I say "sport" because that is exactly what Buhurt is... it doesn't allow for thrusts and half-swording therefore doesn't represent a battle field melee. However, there are some historical sources that lend credence to it being closely akin to the medieval tournament scene. I spoke with Jonathan Burke (HEMA in Taiwan) about the historicity of Buhurt and he gave me a list of some resources that indicate affinity with the modern sport with the historical sport...
1. The Kaiserchronik (twelfth century); specifically uses the term "buhurt".
2. The Eneit by Heinrich von Veldeke (twelfth century); uses the French loan words "tjoste" and "tjostieren" for tourney of this nature.
3. Frauendienst by Ulrich von Liechtenstein (thirteenth century); uses the French loan words "tjoste" and "tjostieren" for tourney of this nature.
4. Matthew Paris (thirteenth century); describes "the martial game called Round Table", which appears to have been single combat with blunt weapons.
5. Sonse de Nansay (thirteenth century; describes tourneys with blunt weapons.
6. Appollonius von Tyrland by Heinrich von Neustadt (thirteenth century); describes foreis and Round Table.

There are undoubtedly more historical references than these but this is a good amount to consider. My main interest in this is due to the arguing within the HEMA community about Buhurt being a legitimate manifestation of a historical practice. I believe it is and I also feel that we should be working together to create a more vibrant modern medieval history resurgence of the arts and the sports of our ancestors.

The main difference I see between HEMA and Buhurt is that HEMA is a martial art - we do have sport tournaments but HEMA stands alone outside of the tournament scene as a systematic martial system; Buhurt is a sport and not a martial art as it cannot exist outside of its tournament scene. Doing Buhurt alone is like playing football by yourself - it cannot be done.

I think Buhurt has its place in modern historical re-enactment and research but I would like to see the combatants develop a meaningful skill set. I'd like to hear everyone elses thought about this.
The Round Table / Re: Can real KNIGHTS exist in the modern day?
« Last post by jason77 on 2018-04-02, 14:41:42 »
This was actually a well thought out presentation and I agree with it. I don't think there is much in here to disagree with. There is more that could have been said though concerning Orders of Knighthood and fraternity as well as modern chivalric orders. All in all a pretty decent video.
The Round Table / Can real KNIGHTS exist in the modern day?
« Last post by Sir Edward on 2018-03-26, 17:28:37 »

Shadiversity has an interesting video that can make for a good topic here. I haven't watched the whole video yet, so you may need to take it with a grain of salt.

Can real KNIGHTS exist in the modern day?

The Courtyard / Re: Fighting in armor
« Last post by Cedric of Havenhall on 2018-02-27, 17:11:24 »
Pell work is important but the best way to feel comfortable and nimble in your armor is to use it as much as possible,  get out and swing steel (or rattan) as often as you can
The Campaign / Re: Pacific Northwest 14th Century Group
« Last post by Cedric of Havenhall on 2018-02-27, 17:08:14 »
There was one fellow that showed up a couple of times at the local SCA Branch (Barony of Dragons Laire) He had a beautiful kit and we fought well together but he got away before I could get mundane info and I haven't seen him since.  I keep hoping he will come back.
We have a great potential venue up here, a place called Camlann Village, just east of Seattle,  a living history village set in England in the 14th Century.  its a pretty incredible place and they are looking for reenactors to put on demos of armor and fighting. 
The Campaign / Re: Pacific Northwest 14th Century Group
« Last post by Thorsteinn on 2018-02-26, 23:21:06 »
No idea but I bet The 14th Cen Mafia on the book of faces knows. I have a few friends up there that love 14th cen kit.
The Campaign / Pacific Northwest 14th Century Group
« Last post by Cedric of Havenhall on 2018-02-23, 23:47:37 »
it seems that most of the 14th century groups are based on the East coast,  Are there any others here in the Northwest interested in getting together?
The Round Table / Re: Ever go" Nope, not gonna be one of them"?
« Last post by Naythan on 2018-02-10, 00:19:32 »
Have you ever had the feeling that the more you talk to the knights of a particular reenactment/medieval group, the less you would want to be one?
How can the Order keep that from happening?
I've always heard bad things about the SCA, enough so that I don't want to try and be a part of it at this time. Not because I doubt most of the people being good people, but Its not something Im even interested in all that much, and Id rather no deal with the drama.
I think whats important for any group is open dialogue among members. If a member is being unreasonably strict or harsh on newcomers, its the responsibility of fellow members to speak with that individual. If most of the members of that group are stuck up, I would just avoid dealing with them.
The Armoury / Re: Mail chausses/ Padding
« Last post by Thorsteinn on 2018-02-09, 21:34:43 »
Have you asked Historic Enterprises?
The Campaign / Re: Need Advice Regarding SCA Combat
« Last post by Cedric of Havenhall on 2018-02-07, 20:33:23 »
Try experimenting with some other fighting styles.  When I first started in the SCA (many, many years ago) I was skinny and had trouble hitting hard enough when fighting Sword and shield, then I discovered polearms and a whole new world opened up for me.  So try some other things until you find what works.  The important thing is to have fun with it. 
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